Holocaust denial rise of the left

Antisemitism and Holocaust denial – the rise of the left

It is HMD, Holocaust Memorial Day. 27 January marks the anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz-Birkenau. As we pause to remember this year – we do so in the shadow of a rise of antisemitism around the world. The central sewer upon which today’s antisemitism feeds is Holocaust Denial. For decades Holocaust Denial was restricted to small gangs of Nazi apologists, instantly recognisable for the disgusting hate that lay behind it. Shockingly, the rise of antisemitism in the modern left spawned from a new mutation of denial that took it into the mainstream. Here is how they did it.

Holocaust denial

The industrialised Holocaust took place between 1942 and 1945 as Nazi Germany eradicated European Jewry. One only has to read Mein Kampf – or listen to Hitler’s speeches – to be transported into the genocidal world of Nazi hatred:

“if the international Jewish financiers in and outside Europe should succeed in plunging the nations once more into a world war, then the result will be not the Bolshevising of the earth, and thus a victory of Jewry, but the annihilation of the Jewish race in Europe!” – Adolf Hitler, 30 January 1939

It is an important quote and one I will return to.

I can start by stating clearly that researching antisemitism is a sickening endeavour. You are literally trying to grapple with irrational hatred. Whilst Holocaust denial always cuts most deeply, in some ideological circles there is an inevitability in finding deniers amongst the antisemites; Neo-Nazis who set out to whitewash the Nazi regime by simultaneously justifying Hitler’s genocidal hatred of Jews whilst suggesting the Holocaust never happened. This absurd contradiction often results in what everybody recognises as classic denial – claims such as:

  • the Camps were legitimate ‘work camps’
  • some Jews died – but ‘mainly of disease’
  • the ‘malnutrition was caused by allied forced cutting off supply chains’

One of the most common pieces of evidence Holocaust deniers circulate (link – NSFW) is a Red Cross document that lists 271,301 victims. In reality these figures were merely part of a post-war attempt to issue death certificates – and a death certificate could only be issued if there was still-existing documentation specifying how a particular person died.  A thoughtful but hopeless exercise.

It was no shock that Neo-Nazis deny the Holocaust. What was unexpected – was the rise of Holocaust denial on the left – a mutation of the oldest hatred, enabling left-wing antisemitism to go mainstream.

The Rise of Holocaust denial on the left

It would be fair to say that Marxist elements on the political left can freely love the victims of the Nazis. The tragedy of the Holocaust and the anti-nationalist ideologies of the modern left are a perfect fit. What better way to show everyone how evil some of their ideological enemies are, than by holding aloft the furnaces of Auschwitz?

When I began the undercover work into antisemitism it never crossed my mind that Holocaust denial would exist on the Marxist left. Yet just as antisemitism has evolved and mutated so too has Holocaust denial. In fact, ‘left-wing’ antisemitism today is so rooted in Holocaust denial it would be unable to have spread into the mainstream without it. It sits hidden away in an antisemitic sewer titled ‘Rothschild Conspiracy’.

Many people I know – indeed even many people who fight antisemitism – consider Rothschild Conspiracy as something akin to a racist joke. Antisemitic – but put away with Icke’s lizards as a silly and almost laughable version of it. An adaptation of the ‘socialism of fools’ that blames Zionists rather than Jews for the inequality of the world. Marxists hate bankers, antisemitic stereotypes paint Jews as bankers, therefore antisemitic Marxists hate Jews.

This misses the point entirely. Rothschild Zionist Conspiracy – is not throwaway foolishness, nor is the inherent Holocaust denial within accidental. It is all an absolutely vital part of anti-Zionist ideology.

20,000 Jewish children burn

The problem is this: Israel is an ethical imperative. It is why elements of the left supported the early Zionists as a liberation movement even before the rise of the Nazis. The more the Nazis rose – the more of the left understood the necessity of Israel. What the Holocaust managed to do, was simply end the argument. Even amongst Jews – there was near universal support. Zionism was no longer just based on history or universal human rights, but on an undeniable contemporary necessity. Had Israel existed earlier, millions of Jews could have been saved.

This image is from a file at the British archives. The Polish consul sought agreement from the British for 20,000 Jewish children from Poland to be allowed to immigrate into the Mandate of Palestine. The date 18 Sep 1939.

Weizmann did not hold back any punches. In a letter to Malcolm MacDonald, British Secretary of State for the Colonies, Weizmann explicitly writes that ‘the lives of the Jewish children’ were in British hands. The date – 15 September 1939.

weizman

The British wouldn’t help. MacDonald responded – if the children were allowed in – it would ‘seriously embarrass’ Great Britain. The date – 20 September 1939:

It took just five days to seal the fate of 20,000 children and it is likely that almost all, if not every one of those 20,000 Jewish children perished. All to save the face of the British as they appeased the antisemitism of the Arabs. This is a single example. Homeless and helpless, the Jews were crushed without mercy in a vice of competing hatreds.

Rothschild Zionists and rewriting history

The Holocaust did not start in 1942, nor did it end in 1945. The roots of the Holocaust were in ancient European and Christian antisemitism. Much of the hate facing Israel from the west today has been developed from the same genetic code. Whilst the Nazis engineered and carried out the destruction – only the fertile environment of a hostile and antisemitic world enabled its success. If in the teachings of the Holocaust you merely capture the industrial slaughter of the Jews, you will never be able to pass on the key messages. Why it happened, how it happened and to whom it happened. The Holocaust is an inseparable part of the wider story of the persecution of the Jewish people. Those who attempt to separate it as a stand-alone element – betray the victims.

6 million dead at the hands of the Nazis. Israel and the remnants of world Jewry were now largely shielded from western antisemitism by the Holocaust. Six million corpses allowed them some breathing space. But antisemitism does not rest. How would it be possible to invert these truths – to bring about such a radical shift, that the left – as a whole – would reject the ethical imperative? Ideologically they needed the victims of Nazi Germany, so only a denial of other key elements of the Holocaust timeline would enable it. Hate is nothing if not innovative. Rothschild conspiracy – already embedded in conversations around the antisemitic dinner table before the Holocaust – provided the perfect vehicle.

Conspiracies about rich Jewish ‘bankers’ causing all the evil in the world had been around since forever – and had focused on the Rothschild family since the Napoleonic wars. The added ingredient here was the word ‘Zionist’. If instead of ‘Jews’ manipulating the world, it was ‘Zionist Jews’, then a whole rewrite of the history of the Holocaust becomes possible. What if millions of Jews died in the Holocaust – but only the good sort of Jews – and the bad Jews – the Zionists – were chiefly responsible for it? What then?

The good Jews and the bad Jews

This vile narrative provides the pillar of the new antisemitism. Only upon this can the antisemitism that ripped the Labour party apart become possible. They can still adopt the dead Jewish victims of the Holocaust as ‘their own’ whilst opening up a new front line against the bad Jews- the Zionists.

Which brings us back to the 1939 Hitler quote. The essence of the antisemitic hate that was to lead to the destruction of European Jewry. Hitler saw the ‘manipulating’ Jewish ‘financiers as responsible for WW1 and for the forces that aligned against him. In his mind, if another World War was to happen – it was down to the Jews – and he would make them pay for it through the ‘annihilation of the Jewish race in Europe’.

This is the core belief of Rothschild conspiracy. There are dozens of groups, public and private still spreading Rothschild conspiracy stories on Facebook:

Holocaust denial

Most of the groups have a strong ‘left-wing’ bias. Just like ‘Palestine Live‘, some of the groups, like ‘Truthers against Zionist Lobbies’, even ran with Jeremy Corbyn as their main profile image. So, what is the story upon which all Rothschild Conspiracy stems?

The Zionists and the wars

This post was uploaded to Labour supporting ‘Palestine Live’ in 2014, by a Labour member Elleanne Green – at a time that future Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn was an active member of the group.

Holocaust denial rothschild

The fully story inside the article can be read here (NSFW). According to this timeline, Lenin was a ‘Rothschild hired thug’. As the Rothschilds were playing with the Russians, they also took control of the British the US and the Chinese. WW2 was part of their global design. The creation of Israel was to ‘serve as a lynchpin’ for Rothschild’s global control.

A brief reminder of what Hitler wrote in Mein Kampf about the Zionist desire to recreate Israel:

“they only want a central organization of their international world cheating,”

The modern far left – Corbyn’s cult – were relying on Hitler’s ideology to enable turning against Israel.

What Rothschild Zionist conspiracy does to empower the hatred of modern Jews in a post-Holocaust world is a magician’s trick. It plays the Zionists off against the Jews. Zionists become nothing but an imposter race from Khazaria that usurped Jewry. No sooner has YouTube deleted videos blaming the Rothschild Zionists for WW2 and the Holocaust, than a new batch is uploaded. The historic archives of antisemitic Facebook groups are full of dead links to articles and videos that have been removed for promoting hatred. Some still exist. As an example, Philip E Taylor has had his posts shared 1000s of times in groups like Palestine Live:

Holocaust Denial

That video is still online. It suggests that the only reason the Germans got ‘rough’ with the Jews was because the Jews were responsible for WW1 and WW2. Whilst some of the material shared talks about Jews and some talks about Zionists – to the anti-Zionist ear it all becomes one as they all follow the same logic. It was all about Rothschild and all about Israel. The discussions are all about ‘Zionists’. Not Jews – Zionists – the people who started WW2 as part of their quest for total power.

Hitting the mainstream

Anti-Zionists view Zionists as ‘global manipulators’, ‘thieves’, ‘bloodsuckers’ and ‘intent on destroying the world to fulfil their own evil agenda’. Just as the Nazis did of the Jews. So anti-Zionists accept the Jewish victims of the Holocaust yet perversely went to work pushing the blame of the Holocaust onto the Jews that survived.

The story they built is clear. Zionist Jews collaborated with the Nazis, firstly providing them with business during a global boycott and later forcing the world to deny the Jews escape routes. These fake Jews didn’t care at all about the lives of the ‘real Jews. They wanted the World War both to make money and ‘win’ Israel. The Holocaust therefore becomes about evil Nazis, wicked Zionists and poor dead Jews. Thus the guilt over the death of 6 million Jews is laid at the door of the Jews who survived.

This isn’t a fringe belief. Using a combination of different elements of the Rothschild conspiracy, this narrative is everywhere in anti-Israel discussion. It is the central pillar of Tom Suarez’s book, which I saw given airtime at SOAS, a London University. The book was celebrated with a launch event in parliament.

Nazi anti-Zionism

It is why Ken Livingstone pushed the Ha’avara story and claimed ‘Hitler supported Zionism’. He built his opinion on the work of the anti-Zionist Lenni Brenner. The online antisemitism campaigners ‘GnasherJew’ have a Twitter thread with dozens of Labour’s *elected officials* who relied on the denial narrative to push their anti-Zionist hatred.

If you read the work of almost any anti-Zionist today, they selectively pull pieces from the Rothschild Holocaust denial narrative at will. They hide behind the title of ‘revisionists’ – but this is beyond ‘revisionism.’ Their argument isn’t a slight rewrite of history based on emerging new details that serious historians discover. They dismantle the Holocaust completely. It turns the victims into the perpetrators. The dead Jews become a fictitious group disconnected from their parents, siblings, children, cousins, aunts and uncles.

An example of how twisted and disconnected from reality the narrative becomes. A post on the Holocaust from a Labour voter:

holocaust denial labour

This is Holocaust denial

9/11 happened when Islamic terrorists flew planes into the towers and the Pentagon. If you take away the perpetrator – if you change the motive – if you reverse causality – you are not revising the truth – you are denying it. The same applies here. Antisemitism rose on the left upon a pillar of Holocaust denial. If you take it away – the entire narrative collapses. The demonisation of Israel is entirely dependant on the rejection of the ethical imperative. The new antisemites successfully do this only by relying on Holocaust denial. They use it to turn a refuge for a persecuted people into an evil regime stolen by those who seek to control the earth.

As we remember the 6 million we should also pay close attention to what is happening today. The same hatred has resurfaced. Look at the Hitler quotes and re-read the anti-Zionist material being shared in the online Labour party groups. They are identical.

 

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131 thoughts on “Antisemitism and Holocaust denial – the rise of the left

  1. The latest unwelcome appearances on our TV screens of that vile Stalinist thug Len McCluskey should remind us that, even after Corbyn has stepped down as Labour leader (and I use the word ‘leader’ advisedly), Labour will continue to be an anti-Semitic sewer.

    Whoever takes on the poisoned chalice of leading this institutionally racist cult will have to deal with the fact that many of its most prominent members and biggest bankrollers are still unrepentant acolytes of Corbyn. These Hard Left cranks will do whatever they can to ensure that anti-Semitism remains alive and well within Labour’s ranks. Yes, Labour will comply with the EHRC’s ruling, but that’s only because it’s a legal obligation. I’m certain that this moral disgrace of a party will continue to provide a haven for anti-Semites, especially those morons who think that by peddling Rothschild conspiracy theories they’re somehow advancing the cause of the working-classes.

    1. I don’t know how much AS was a factor in the Hard Left Labour Party getting hit with the worst General Election loss in 84 years. I do know that it would make me happy to see Labour learn absolutely nothing from the richly earned ass kicking they received. I don’t have any time for Labour and if they want to burn themselves down, G-d bless them.

      1. don’t know how much AS was a factor in the Hard Left Labour Party getting hit with the worst General Election loss in 84 years

        I do. Zilch

        1. EVIDENCE Stephen?

          Labour MPs reported ein told they wouldn’t vote for Labour because of antisemitism.

          Even a Northern town which had voted Labour for 101 years rejected Labour.

          As always, your comments amount to “Zilch” because you know “Zilch”!

        2. Dumb Bellamy, So WHY did the Fascist Left, Pro-Islamofascist LaBOOR Party have the worst General Election loss in 84 years???

  2. The reality is if racism in the UK was a food label antisemitism would appear as ” trace”

    1. This is a very useful point Stephen. It is exactly for this reason that the law requires us to label our goods. We know that in many cases a “trace” element can cause acute harm. In some cases it kills.

      1. Tough your stuck with it. you may as well devote to time striving for zero unemployment.. It isn’t going to happen

        1. Not really Stephen. Prejudice and racism is your thing. One of the joys of being in charge here is that we can quite quickly ‘neutralise’ trace elements of antisemitism.

          Did you see the pics of Israeli F-15s over mainland Europe? Brilliant !

  3. I am reminded every year of the words of Eisenhower on the liberation of the camps – “Get it all on record now – get the films – get the witnesses -because somewhere down the road of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened.”

    ― Dwight D. Eisenhower

    1. Re. bastards.

      We have ‘bastards’ today who deny that Arabs were ethnically cleansed, raped, shot as Jewish militia/terrorists destroyed hundreds of their villages to form an Arab free border to the fledgling state of Israel and to ensure a Jewish majority in the new state.

      Eminent historians have denounced claims that radio messages from Arab leaders to leave temporarily were given.

      Subsequent ethnic cleansing of Jews from Arabs countries was more patchwork. Some WERE expelled. In some countries Zionists and Mossad worked hard to persuade(by dubious means) Jewish emigration to the brand spanking new state within Palestine. Other Arab countries were loath to see them leave for their new state.

      1. “Eminent historians”? You mean the “liar” Illan Pappe. Even “New Historian” Prof Benny Morris has exposed him as “a liar” – so too Prof. Karsh.

        Illan Pappe had to leave Israel – he had supported his MA student Teddy Katz who claimed he had uncovered a massacre at Tantura. Haifa U asked for evidence but Katz had lied – no evidence!

        Pappe admitted to Stephen Sackur on British UK that he didn’t teach “facts” but “propaganda”!

        There are numerous videos on YouTube interviewing Arabs who admitted they were told to run away for 2 weeks & the return, y which time all the Jews would be dead – 600,000 Jews of whom 400,000 were Holocaust Survivors.

        You & other antisemites are proof that Israel is the oly safe place for Jews. You are a liar & hypocrite. Why are you silent on:

        Lebanon’s apartheid system against Palestinians or silent that thousands of Syria Palestinians died of starvation (you did nothing), gas attacks or killed by Assad or Solemani in Yarmouk refugee camp – BTW – Israel built a field hospital for the Syrians who intentionally went to the border with Israel & Israel flew 5000+ Syrians to Israeli hospitals & saved their lives.

        What did you do Stephen & Mikey other than be an antisemitic troll of which you both excel!

  4. So, David takes the opportunity on this Holocaust Memorial day, not so much to mourn all the Jews and others who were targeted as undesirables to be obliterated, but to attack ‘the left’ for what he describes as ‘Holocaust Denial’. He’s making Capital out of the Holocaust … literally.

    He has dishonestly described Corbyn as an active member of Palestine Live, which he as described as being anti-Semitic. Corbyn was ‘joined’ by other than himself and took no part in any antisemitic correspondence.

    If membership of any ‘rabid anti-Semitic group’ is evidence of that member’s antisemitism then David himself should apologise to all who fight it. Yes, David himself tells us that he himself is a member of the “institutionally anti-Semitic’ Labour Party. Amazing for a right-wing Zionist.

    Also, were David determined to root out antisemitism wherever it lurks in the UK political parties he would ‘research'(joke) other parties.

    Seems that he is loath to do so.

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1211608323100938240

  5. it is remarkable reading this. so to what do you ascribe “antisemitism”? do you think it is *rational* or *irrational*?

    if it’s *rational*, the causes should be very easy to find. if it’s *irrational*, you will never find the causes.

    from my perspective as a non jew, the reasons for the 109 expulsions of the jews from many different jurisdictions appear to be perfectly rational. the jews were simply breaking the law by practicing usury, which was illegal under the laws of the Catholic church until quite recently.

    what is “antisemitic” about that? you break the laws of the land you suffer penalties whoever you may be and whatever your religion.

    why did the jews continue to do that? you would have thought after 109 expulsions they would get the message.

    is it the jews who have a problem? they cannot see themselves as others see them?

    if you are doing things other people don’t like, and you want these people to stop hating you for your actions, just stop doing them.

    what is so hard to understand about that?

    1. Because you are a “rational” (cough) individual, I am quite sure that you came up with your ex post facto “usury” argument after spending literally minutes on research. And I am also sure that you looked into the context for what jobs Jews were allowed to do in Europe, which in turn I’m soooo sure you considered “rational” as well. But glad to see your defensiveness over what a complete asshole you are led you to post such a stupid, easily torn apart argument. If you continue to infest this board, it’s going to be a lot of fun making you look idiotic. Well, slightly more idiotic, you do have a rudimentary ability to type.

      1. love the way jews always descend to personal attacks. I’m doing this on my phone so sure the typing is defective.you haven’t actually refuted anything I said. I’ve spent much more than a few minutes on research old boy. maybe you should do some too. jews are not innocent parties. read the noble jew Gerard Menuhin’s book Tell the Truth and Shame the Devil. that’ll put you straight.

        1. What personal attacks? I obviously love you, I just found all of your oeling to be complete horseshit, and as one kissy-face to another you should find a better hammer for your Nazi representative manqué than a freakshow like Menuhin.

  6. In a highly publicized event in May–June 1939, the United States refused to admit over 900 Jewish refugees who had sailed from Hamburg, Germany, on the St. Louis. The St. Louis appeared off the coast of Florida shortly after Cuban authorities cancelled the refugees’ transit visas and denied entry to most of the passengers, who were still waiting to receive visas to enter the United States. Denied permission to land in the United States, the ship was forced to return to Europe. The governments of Great Britain, France, the Netherlands, and Belgium each agreed to accept some of the passengers as refugees. Of the 908 St. Louis passengers who returned to Europe, 254 (nearly 28 percent) are known to have died in the Holocaust. 288 passengers found refuge in Britain. Of the 620 who returned to the continent, 366 (just over 59 percent) are known to have survived the war.

    As David is criticising Britain for its failure to take in all the refugees. Jjust thought a US related item should be shown.

    David likes the US more than the UK. Probably due to its anti-Palestinian stance.

    1. Stop making stuff up. The reason I posted the British historical piece was because I have access to the archives. I was doing research this week and found these documents.

      1. David Collier tells me “Stop making stuff up.”

        Hilarious. Stitch my sides back up …. Collier …. “Stop making stuff up” …. Classic.

        1. Antisemitic trolls like you are striking for their perversity.

          You seem to have a “thing” for David.

          You can’t leave him alone, can you?

          You follow David here. You follow David on Twitter!

          This is the sum of your antisemitic life: trolling David. Trolling Jews.

          It is a pathological obsession that you have!

          You should seek help as a matter of urgency.

          1. Judah, your David has for years now vilified the leader of the Labour Party with serial personal attack through blatant lies. He’s no decent chap. He’s a dishonest pro-Israeli poison pen.

  7. oh. and 9/11 was an entirely jewish operation. remember the “dancing Israelis”? read Rebekah Roth’s books on the subject. another very good reason to censor jews.

    1. sigerSICKo,

      Can you explain why “The Religion of Peace” is so out of control?

      – 9/11 and now necessity to X-Ray all luggage/cargo and scan/interview all passengers
      – 1993 truck bombing of the World Trade Center
      – 1968 assassination of US Senator Robert F. Kennedy
      – 1972 Hijacking of the Summer Olympics and murder of athletes
      – 1988 bombing of Pan Am 103 which crashed on Lockerbie scotland
      – 2005 London’s 7/7 transport massacre
      – Beheading of Lee Rigby, journalist Daniel Pearl, James Foley and other victims of ISIS
      – Boston Marathon bombing
      – London and Westminster bridge car ramming attacks
      – Bastille Day truck ramming attack in Nice France
      – massacre at Charlie Hebdo magazine offices in Paris
      – massacre at Bataclan music venue
      – massacre at Manchester music venue
      – massacre at Pulse nightclub in Orlando
      – massacre at Christmas party in San Bernardino
      – stabbing to death of filmmaker Theo Van Gogh
      – Fascist Irans death threats against writer Salman Rushdie
      – 500,000 dead in Syria (Arabs killing Arabs)
      – 1,000,000 dead in 8 year Iraq/Fascist Iran war (Muslims killing Muslims)
      – Mumbai India massacre
      – Nairobi Kenya mall massacre
      – Sadaam Husseins poison gassing of the Kurds of Halabja Iraq
      – ISIS beheading videos
      – Hamass executing gays by pushing them off rooftops in Gaza
      – Fascist Iran executing gays by hanging them from construction cranes
      – Coptic Christians being murdered in Egypt
      – murder of tourists in Luxor
      – Manhattan bike path car ramming attack
      – failed sneaker and later underwear suicide bombing of an inflight plane
      – failed SUV bombing of Times Square
      – public threats on placards of 9/11 scale attacks on the UK and Europe
      – Brussels airport bombing
      – bombing of USS Cole
      – Fort Hood Texas massacre
      – foiled attack on Garland Texas conference
      – death threats on creators of South Park cartoon series
      – Brooklyn Bridge shooting
      – Empire State Building Observation Deck shooting
      – Fascist Irans calls for Death to America
      – Taliban shooting girls who want an education
      – Muslim families stoning their daughters to death over “family honour”
      – DC Beltway sniper
      – Boko Haram kidnapping and raping girls in Nigeria
      – ISIS murdering Egyptian soldiers in the Sinai
      – ISIS burning Jordanian pilot to death
      – Taliban destroying two 1,500 year old Buddahs in Bamiyan Afghanistan
      – ISIS destroying antiquities of Palmyra
      – Hezbola and Hamass using children as Human Shields
      – Christmas market shooting in Strasbourg France
      – Armenian Genocide by the Turks
      – 1/15/19 Shabab terrorist attack in Nairobi Kenya
      – 2019 Easter Sunday massacre in Sri Lanka
      – London Bridge stabbings
      – Pensacola Florida US Navy Air training school massacre

      and on and on….

        1. shiterico, Why are ISLAMOFASCISTS at WAR with the ENTIRE WORLD?

          Why are ISLAMOFASCISTS MURDERING people ALL OVER THE WORLD?

          Why are you SHILLING for Islamofascism?

    2. I knew this site was missing a genuine Nazi commenter! You’ll fit the bill nicely, as Muck Framer is a troll and an idiot and a walking joke but NOT a Nazi.

      1. the link appears to be correct. Sanhedrin 54b. sodomy of nine year old boys not sodomy because they are under age.

        1. Of course the link’s not correct. Sigerico wants to be Andrew Joyce but he isn’t up to the task. And of course he has no problem with Catholics being pederasts, for reasons that seem clear but I won’t speculate further on.

  8. Seems there is a new Jew hater on board
    The difference with the other Jew haters is that his hatred of Jews is explicit

    The first conspiracy theory has been used; now to wait for the next and the next etc etc

    In this view Jews are responsible for Antisemitism, and therefore deserve whatever is thrown at them
    The Jews are responsible for capitalism, the Jews are responsible for communism.
    The Jews are responsible for ………..(insert whatever takes your fancy; there are plenty of eager followers who will agree)

    The world doesn’t change much

      1. What does “Hasbara” refer to Mikey?

        I suggest you take lessons in English, history & antisemitism.

          1. When a bad faith troll who is stupid makes sweeping statements like you do, he or she (or in your case maybe both depending on whether Bruce Levy is in the apartment or not), invites laughter and then a white noise effect when they write anything else.

  9. I am curious why you allow lunatic, froth-at-the-mouth anti-semites to post comments on your site. It really detracts from your work and it adds nothing. I enjoy reading intelligent comments, even ones that disagree but not the ravings of bigots.

    1. I no longer have any idea why I allow Mike (and I am assuming we are talking about Mike) on this site. I am however not convinced it detracts from the work I do.

      1. Over the life of this site there have been a fair few questions asked about the value of the comment section. It has never been a place for reasonable discussion and probably shouldn’t be seen as such. Most people that come here to comment have zero interest in that type of thing (and I certainly include myself here). The opponents tend to be professional virtualistas for whom social media was invented; people who claim to have strongly held views but can do nothing more than write about them here. It is a useful permanent record though and to that extent serves as a visible and accessible archive of how antisemitism was prosecuted on the internet in the 2000s and the various tactics that were used.

        On the face of it David has been extremely tolerant of some of his guests. However, at the same time he has been extremely successful at leading the witnesses, almost daily to incriminate themselves for the record and assist him in making his points. To this extent the policy has worked pretty well.

      2. Mike is so dumb that he’s a huge advocate for this site without having any clue that he’s doing great work for me and other site supporters. Personally I would NEVER ban his comically incompetent ass. He’s much too valuable as a troll-toll-trainwreck to get rid of.

        1. Ok, Ben, I’ll continue to point out David’s falsehoods about Corbyn and the Labour Party.

          He may one day start to root out antisemitism in other areas of UK life and hold UK Jews dearer that Israeli Jews, be they pro or anti Zionism.

          Wouldn’t want to miss that. That WOULD be a treat.

    2. “froth-at-the-mouth anti-semites “, Mark.

      Collier tweeted…
      “Lying, antisemitic, anti-west, terrorist loving, NATO hating, Jew-baiting, IRA supporting, community splitting, economy wrecking – Corbyn

      A useful idiot for despotic regimes, terrorists and all our other enemies

      Supporting Corbyn is not just stupid

      It’s dangerous”

      Much frothing, slurring and deliberate lying there, wouldn’t you agree?

      Posters answer back, It’s a comment section.

    3. No anti-Semite. Critic of Israel and Zionism.

      Nothing against Jews the majority of whom prefer to live elsewhere.

      1. Mike, you are an antisemite – you are a Jew baiter of the first order. That has been clearly established over and over again.

        You can carry on now.

        1. Thankyou.

          Two questions:

          What is an anti-Semite?

          What is a Jew-baiter?

          Shan’t ask what a Zionist is, asked you once. You replied that it’s different things to different people. Obviously difficult for you.

          1. Sharmuta, Look in the mirror.

            Happy Nakba! And may your every days be filled with untreatable STD’s!

      2. The Sharmuta said:

        > Nothing against Jews the majority of whom prefer to live elsewhere.

        The Majority of Irish prefer to live outside of Southern Ireland.

  10. David, I think there’s a lot of merit in your analysis. I would add as a further data point Hobson’s Imperialism, to a reprint of which Corbyn supplied a fulsome introduction. The thesis advanced in that book about Jews and capitalism is substantially the same as Hitler’s. If someone believes- as Corbyn evidently does – that “Rothschild” monetary interests seek to dominate the world, and should be opposed, why wouldn’t he identify Zionism or any other international Jewish project with those “Rothschilds”, and oppose it?

    1. As an American I say…

      G-d Bless Australia!

      which is a better, steadfast friend of the US, than the UK.

  11. Looks like things are gonna get tastey here in the Eastern Med.

    The Donald is full of surprises.

  12. collier tweets “Dear @realDonaldTrump

    Thanks for your offer of $50 billion if we stop killing Jews and rewarding those that do. We could certainly line our pockets with that!

    But we would much rather incite to kill Jews and reward those that carry it out.

    So – thanks but no

    PA, Hamas & IJ”

    There’s nothing in the Trump, sorry, Netanyahu plan that will change Palestinian lives. They will still live in a prison where all movement of people and goods will be at the whim of Israel. With Gazan waters still occupied and no provision of an airport they will still be controlled by Israel or its unelected agents of the PA.

  13. Davy, your kind must stop spreading misinformation because as a Jew and someone who earned a degree in History, I’ve always felt uncomfortable with and suspicious of the ‘six million’ figure describing the number of Jews that were supposed to have been killed by 1933-45 National Socialist Germany, as ‘six million’ is more and more used in contexts that have absolutely nothing to do with the Holocaust.

    The United States Holocaust Museum states: “Calculating the numbers of individuals who were killed as the result of Nazi policies is a difficult task. There is no single wartime document created by Nazi officials that spells out how many people were killed in the Holocaust or World War II.”

    Not to minimise or deny the terrible crimes that occurred, but sound academic research suggests the number of Jews killed is just under a million to roughly three million.

    Highly respected New York, Orthodox Rabbi Yosef Mizrachi claimed that 80 percent of those identified as Jews killed by the Nazis during the Holocaust were not Jewish according to halakha.

    Rabbi Mizrachi stated in 2015: “The truth is that not even 1 million Jews were killed. Not that this is, God forbid, an insignificant number, it’s massive, but there is a difference between 1 million and 6 million.”

    After the Second World War, It was in the Allies best interests to minimise and distract from the massive number of war victims, mostly civilians, killed in the Allied bombing raids on German cities such as Dresden and also the casualities caused by the atomic weapons that America dropped on the Japanese cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

    It was in the Zionist’s own interests as well, to exaggerate the number of Jews killed by National Socialist Germany to generate sympathy for the creation — and existance of — apartheid Israel and explain away its many crimes that continue to this very day.

    In fact, the other day at synagogue, my Rabbi also admitted that it is pretty much an open secret that the six million amount had been exaggerated since the end of World War II mostly due to the reasons stated above.

    1. Yes Bruce, so as a Jew (ha ha) what figure did you have in mind?

      What, in your mind and that of your pretend Rabbis is the watershed number where sympathy for Jews can legitimately start?

      Is it 1000 dead Jews, 10,000, 100,000, 1,000,000 or all of them?

      Asking for a disputed number of dead relatives.

    1. “As a Jew”, ” my friend the Rabbi says…”, “Jew York”. Seriously who says this stuff ?

      It’s almost as if Bruce is completely made-up. Surely not !

      1. Brucie babes

        Which Temple Beth Springfield
        In New Jersey
        In Massachusetts
        Or somewhere else
        Also what is the Rabbis’ name

        1. Hey Dick, it’s an anti-Zionist congregation in America.
          You think you’re clever, so go and find it.

      1. Nice Bellers. A flash-mob in Nurnberg in 2014 playing the orchestral piece, Ode an die Freude sponsored by Evenord Bank.

        Did you mean to post this?

        1. Nah, that’s that Zionist nutter we’ve seen before.

          You think he’s playing second-fiddle I suppose.

          1. Hang on. You’re saying Bellers is recycling from his 2005 archive again. Surely not?

            Lean over the booth and explain to him how the YouTube carousel works when links are served.

    1. Hey Trailer Trash Ted, better cancel that Greyhound reservation to NYC because the venue canceled your neo-Nazi JDL event due to the overwhelming number of complaints from decent, conscientious people — like me.
      Great to see your kind getting what it deserves ?

      1. Brutes, you’re decent and conscientious like an oozing infected sea eel corpse is gourmet prime rib. What a combination of huge ego and shriveled talent you are.

          1. Those weren’t insults, Brutes. Just straight reporting, particularly the parts about your ego (huge) and talent (miniscule), which are based on your own F-grade efforts. If you don’t want people to take the piss out of you, don’t toot your own horn when it’s documented how much you suck.

            1. Ben, (the Zio who has an anus for a mouth).
              I’m ok with with whatever you say about me, as long as you keep reading my comments.

        1. Aaah, the JDL. I’d advise giving them a wide berth Bruce. Not your sort of crowd at all. Smart guys. Try the old “as a Jew..” shtick with them and you may be introduced to a whole new application for a lulav*

          * = Lulav ([lu’lav]; Hebrew: לולב‎) is a closed frond of the date palm tree. It is one of the Four Species used during the Jewish holiday of Sukkot.

  14. “Like much of what Trump has done during his time in office, this proposal says the quiet part out loud. So obvious is the contempt for Palestinians, so blatant is the racism, that even people who previously supported proposals based on the same dehumanizing principle are growing visibly uncomfortable.”

  15. “This is not a peace deal; it is an annexation plan. If another country wanted 60% of our territory and full control of our borders, natural resources and national security, we would not see that as a peace proposal; we would see it as a declaration of war. What will the Government do to enforce international law if annexation goes ahead?”

  16. Brucie babes (Bruce Levy)

    I was wondering if the Temple Beth Springfield you mention is not the the same one that featured in the Simpsons

    Just asking

  17. Brucie babes

    pray tell; what was Antisemetic about that post

    When I Googled the Shul in question, that was the top of all suggestions; and unless you tell me which Shul it is, I’ll be left to assume that it is the one in question

    Balls in your court baby-shoes

    1. Note to Dick – Spelling lesson:

      It’s A-N-T-I-S-E-M-I-T-I-C, not “Antisemetic” (your spelling).

      Your actions go against the teachings of the Talmud.
      In the Mishnah , the right to visual privacy gave birth to the concept of “hezek r’iyah” or damage caused by looking.
      The Mishnah in Bava Batra 3:7 states: “In a common courtyard, a person should not open a door opposite a door and a window opposite a window.”

      I’ll leave you to ponder that and reflect on your sins.

  18. Brucie Brucie

    Control yourself

    All I asked for was the name and location of the Rabbi and Shul

    Failure to supply such basic and simple information leads me to the conclusion that all the information you alleged about figures for the Jewish dead are made up fictions

    That your sole method of reply was to criticise a ‘spelling’ mistake,reveals the dearth of intelligent reasoning behind your posts on this site.

    Another question?
    What are you; an ‘as a jew’ or a ‘pretend jew’
    I eagerly await your pusillanimous reply

  19. “I eagerly await your pusillanimous reply”

    Your mask just slipped.

    Now go sliver back under your decomposing Zio log. Dick.

  20. Brucie babes

    What mask
    And why do you resort to such low insult

    I asked which Shul you were referring to, and your answer confirms it to be from the Simpsons

  21. Brucie babes

    If you are unable to supply a civil answer to a simple question, it begs the question why you are here other than to be a disruptive force in the service of Jew hating Antisemitic racist bigots.
    But then we knew that from the beginning.

    The ‘as a jew’ and the ‘pretend jew’ facilitate and further the aims of the Jew hating Antisemitic racist bigots; actions that contributed to the horrors of the Holocaust that you so glibly disparage and whose numbers you dispute.
    But then nastiness is your name; which we all knew from the start

  22. Most Antisemitic Jew hating racist bigots attempt to disguise their bigotry like a few other commentators on this blog

    You don’t bother; so your comments are quite mundane
    You need to study the likes of Bruce Levy for lessons in the art hate speech, while attempting to say you aren’t an Antisemite

    1. Your kind are all alike Dick with your holier-than-thou attitude.
      You personify everything that’s bad about Jews — providing that you’re actually Jewish, which I doubt.
      When I was in Isra-hell, I met many of your kind and I now realise why some people are antisemitic. You kind gives us Jews a bad name.
      Keep up the name calling Dick. At least it’ll keep you off the streets away from harm.

      I’ll pray for you at Beth Springfield.

  23. Back to the eternal question

    Which Beth Springfield

    Homer Simpsons or another
    Do please tell

    1. Hey Dick, it’s in America. You think you’re so clever. Go and find it.
      I’m not divulging where I worship to your kind. Go and stalk someone else.

  24. I’m inclined to believe that because you refuse to divulge which Beth Springfield you claim to attend, that it’s a smokescreen to conceal the fact that it is imaginary or it really is from the Homer Simpsons playbook

    Please continue to obfuscate on this issue to confirm our suspicions

    1. Hey Dick, though I distain stereotypes, you’ve confirmed the suspicion that you’re all alike.
      It’ll be a happy day when the world rids itself permanently of your kind.

  25. Brucie babes

    About that Beth Springfield Shul that you said you belong to

    Which Beth Springfield Shul is it

    Or are you conceding that the Shul you belong to is the one that featured in the Simpsons

  26. Brucie babes

    Bruce Levy is the name
    Obfuscation is the game

    Do be a good boy and answer the question?

    The Beth Springfield Shul that you claim to belong to; is that the Shul featured in the Simpsons

    Gratuitous insults about me do not constitute an intelligent reply
    Rather they tend to point towards educational deficiencies
    Enjoy your days

    1. Your attempt to save face is all too obvious, Dick. Now go back to scrubbing the pavement.

      1. No Bruce, we’re all interested now

        Is there a function room at this Dusty Springfield shul of yours ? How many does it seat and do you allow Jewish caterers in to serve kosher* meals?

        * Kosher means fit or proper as it relates to Jewish dietary law. Kosher foods are permitted to be eaten, and can be used as ingredients in the production of additional food items. The basic laws are of Biblical origin (Leviticus 11 and Deuteronomy 17).
        Old Testament

  27. Brucie babes

    How am I trying to save face
    Do tell.
    I await in breathless anticipation

    Back to the main show

    Answer the question

    Is the Beth Springfield Shul you say you go to the same as in the Simpsons, or is another
    Pray tell

    I’m sure that there are many awaiting your next revelation

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