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Yes, the EHRC is out – be ready to fight again at dawn

I have stayed away from Labour antisemitism for a while because whilst the EHRC report remained ‘pending’ there was nothing I could do or say that would make a difference. Yesterday, 29 Oct 2020 – at 10am, the report was published.
On Monday I gave evidence in the tribunal against Nazim Ali.  For those that don’t know, Nazim Ali is from the Islamic Human Rights Commission and each year he leads the Hezbollah friendly, pro-Iranian Al -Quds march. The tribunal is related to his public comments about ‘Zionists’ being responsible for the Grenfell tragedy. As I am currently quarantined, I was only given an exemption to provide my statement and have been unable to attend the rest of the hearing. From those who are there I hear Ali relied on the ‘some of my best friends are Jewish (from the Neturei Karta)’ defence. This issue of ‘some Jews’ being used to provide an umbrella for a hatred towards Jews must be addressed and the failure to grasp this properly in the first place is what allowed the entire Labour party to walk willingly into the antisemitic sewer.

Jews and Zionism

Almost every Jew is a Zionist. Surveys tend to suggest that number hovers around 90%. The non-Zionist element of Jewry is therefore small. Even smaller is the active opposition to Zionism or ‘anti-Zionist’. Anti-Zionists are split into two key groups. The Marxist left and a fringe sect in the ultra-religious right. Given what we know, it is probably reasonable to conclude each of these groups is probably somewhere between 0.5- 2% of Jewry.

Nazim Ali hides his hate behind a single tiny ultra-orthodox sect. Ali claims he cannot be antisemitic because he has found a few ultra-religious Jews who have built themselves around opposition to Zionism. It is astonishing that this clearly false argument has actually worked in some quarters.

The hard-left use Jewish Voice for Labour in the same way. Holocaust deniers, Rothschild conspiracy theorists and white supremacists all suggest they cannot be antisemitic because fringe groups waving ‘Jewish Network’ banners hold hands with them at events. This strategy works in the mainstream within outlets such as the BBC, Sky News and the Guardian. It shouldn’t.

Using fringe Jews with different beliefs to attack other Jews is still a form of religious persecution. Zionism is a fundamental part of our Jewish identity. This holds true for over 90% of Jews. We have a right to demand this discrimination stops.

Raining on the EHRC parade

I don’t want to rain on the parade, but I am not celebrating the publication of the EHRC report. It is true that this report provides a historical record of the failure of the Labour party to protect Jewish members and shows how swiftly a movement can become infected with antisemitism. Yes, it is important and welcome. But those who think this is the end of the battle are sorely mistaken.

The Labour Party was not dragged into the antisemitic sewer. It went willingly. They exiled the heretics, took up arms to fight the devil (Zionists), held their false messiah aloft – and joyfully sang his name. The key disciples received standing ovations wherever they went. We cannot know how much damage was done, nor how long it will take to undo it. As I write the Labour party is heading for open civil war. The unions are almost a united front against us. The antisemitic incubators inside the universities are alien turf for us and protected by the ‘Iron Dome’ of academic freedom.
‘Jezza’s army’ also had their Jewish umbrella. ‘Jewish voice for Labour’. These fringe Jewish Marxists were given multiple platforms, welcomed inside the CLP’s and used as a cover to attack the British Jewish Mainstream. Yesterday, even after the EHRC report came out, the BBC rolled them all out. There is no excuse for this. The EHRC report proves that ‘at best’ this Jewish fringe are delusional and clueless. At worst they are deliberately undermining the fight against anti-Jewish racism. This is now historical record. How on earth can the BBC justify still having them on?
Because the war is far from over. In fact, it may well be just beginning.

Our British home

In 2017 my daughter was just 16 and had just sat her GCSE’s.  At the time, the only conversations we had on her future where about which university she would choose to go to. In 2019 she changed direction completely and has since volunteered as a lone soldier in the Israeli Defence Force. She is no longer living in the UK.

I cannot be sure that the Labour Antisemitism earthquake that hit British Jewry during 2018-2019 is responsible for my daughter’s change of heart, but nor can I dismiss the possibility. In Jewish households throughout the UK we all felt the roots beneath our feet shake. Who is to say what long lasting effects this has had on our sense of the UK as our ‘home’?

The EHRC fallout – Jezza – your part in his downfall

I was reporting on antisemitism in the party long before most. In Autumn 2015, after Corbyn’s leadership victory, it felt like a lonely and uphill struggle. Few wanted to see the truth. We are diaspora Jews – we do not like to be seen to be rocking any boats.

It took far too long for some in the community to wake up and realise the dangers that antisemitism on the left poses. The problems that pro-Corbyn elements presented for us as Jews in the UK. There was ignorance about how antisemitism has masked itself and naivety over how quickly it spreads. Until spring 2018 a sense of ‘it will pass’ or ‘can’t happen here’ was still the order of the day.

For now, lots of people are climbing to the top of the hill, metaphorically holding the head of Corbyn aloft and crowing about how they (or their organisation) are heroes. It is my hope that this pause in fighting to chest-beat and celebrate is a brief one. Does our community possess both the understanding to realise the battle is not done and the courage to accept the boat must be rocked even further? I am not sure it does.

We must turn our attention to campus. The unions must also be fought. And on the political front, Jezza’s army – that sees the EHRC only as the establishment protecting itself – is still out there – and it is far larger than it was in 2015. Many local Labour Party groups remain toxic and hostile. Does anyone really believe that the antisemitic Palestine Solidarity Campaign – which actively spreads Jew hatred – will be unwelcome at the next Labour Party Conference?

Celebrate if you must, but make sure you are ready to fight again when dawn comes.

 

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313 thoughts on “Yes, the EHRC is out – be ready to fight again at dawn”

    1. Stephen

      Because you have a rabid hatred of Jonathan doesn’t mean that the nonsense you sprout is valid and/or true

      Go back to being the pretend ‘village idiot’; it suits you better and is more in keeping with the image you try to create

    1. Hi Bellers. Was that your impersonation of Dastardly after losing another race?

      “I’ll get you Penelope Pitstop”

            1. My advice would be don’t type whilst driving. You’re unintelligible and you could kill a kiddie.

                2. Wow, I thought Americans were pricks to each other on the internet, but holy shit. We’ve got nothing on you Brits. Just nothing. I’m not talking about this thread in particular, I’ve been meandering around these comments in a sort of awe.

                  It’s like a prison knife fight. And you just keep going. Even this relatively mild thread – pure, uncut petty name-calling, accusation, and contempt. And you kept responding to each other! Just to be mean!

                  I mean this all as praise by the way. You’re terrifying. Please don’t flay me. I bow to my betters.

                  Hail Brittania, the internet is yours by right of conquest. May you rule it with iron fist and sneering aside, till the singularity uploadeth us all.

              2. Safer here than where Israel rules. If an Arab has an accident there he’s shot dead…. THEN the accident is investigated.

                1. 48 hours of frustration and anger Michael and this is what its come to for you, a bit of second gear provocation to make you feel better about yourself. Seriously, embrace the defeat and learn from it.

  3. “Using fringe Jews with different beliefs to attack other Jews is still a form of religious persecution. Zionism is a fundamental part of our Jewish identity. This holds true for over 90% of Jews. We have a right to demand this discrimination stops.”
    _______________________

    Collier brushes aside the 0.5- 2% of Jewry that he tells us are probably anti-Zionist , and we can of course believe him because Collier ‘is an honourable man’.

    The number of UK Jews according to the ONS is approx. 0.4%.

    Should we care for the opinions of a mere 0.4% of the population?

    1. That is an impoirtant piint. David and any other Jew can identify however he wants. Just don’t lay it the rest of us.Look guys your identity is your business. We don’t give a fuck. Its your business. We don’t care. Geddit ?

      1. Explains why you are both on here badmouthing Jews 24/7 ?

        Because you “don’t care” ?

        ?

        Duh…..

        ?

          1. Playing fast and loose with your own language today Michael. Are you in the car with Bellers and sharing the driving? Dont you be steering and typing too?

          2. And Jewish poets?

            You hate them too don’t forget…

            And you think that the UK Jewish population is irrelevant….

            Bit of a c@nt aren’t you Farmgirl?

            ?

            1. You really don’t understand what people post do you, Dobbin? … or do you just hasbar all the time?

      2. Bellers!! At least pull the car over before typing. You’re the personification of Lynx Africa, a real smell of male desperation.

      3. There you go Bells, you were heading in the direction of reactionary asshole and it’s a pleasure to see you reach your destination. Always nice to see a piece of shit like you get to where he belongs. Also, if you can’t change your mind and won’t change the subject, drag your fanatic fanny somewhere you’ll be tolerated (I suggest Stormfront).

    2. Yes, of course we should “care for the opinions of a mere 0.4%.” But we shouldn’t that their opinions are a true representation of the 99.6%. That’s the way it works in a democracy.

      1. First of all, Tony “shouldn’t…that” makes no sense. What are you missing here? Can’t you type.
        Second, I’m pretty sure tying a fact’s legitimacy to how many people are presenting it has been, historically, a poor venture indeed. Makes ya sound like both a bigot and a moron.
        Last, if you’re going to be a parrot on this board, it’d help you to find a less retarded echo chamber partner than Muck Framer. If this is your best shot, move along and find an online garbage dump somewhere to eat from.

    3. Watching you fall apart in real time is a truly joyous experience. You deserve every bit of the pain you’re feeling, and I can’t wait to see your next meltdown 🙂

      1. Pain? What pain? That’s for your lot to whine on about.

        Labour Party was not found to be ‘institutionally antisemitic’. In fact the EHRC listed quite a few improvement made under Jeremy’s leadership. All Collier’s smears and lies against Corbyn came to nothing. No evidence whatsoever of any anttisemitism on Corbyn’s part.

        EHRC found some procedures weren’t followed, but wasn’t it Labour Friend of Israel Tom Watson that sought to have all complaints re-routed through himself? 🙂

        2. And there’s the meltdown! Seriously, though…are you illiterate? I’ve been assuming that you’re not that bright but also that you could read. Now I’m doubting you can.

  4. Nazim said “Some of the biggest corporations who are supporting the Conservative Party are Zionists. They are responsible for the murder in Grenfell. The Zionist supporters of the Tory Party.”

    Anything racial in there, David?

    You’re not being deceptive in attempting to map Zionism to Jewry are you? … you being ‘an honourable man’.

  5. I saw something on TV news last night that I found interesting. A Labour grandee saying that the internal civil war that is going on in Labour is nothing new, and is just a continuation of the battle for control between the liberal left of Labour and the farrrr left of the Labour Party.

    As David says, this was just a battle victory over the course of a whole war against Jews under the guise of anti-Israel and anti-Zionist hatred

    David Hirsch, the academic who coined the ‘Livingston Formula’ on Antisemitism, wrote a very interesting article on this issue and the IHRA saying that the results of this report can now be added as further examples of the definition of Antisemitism

    The IHRA is making a difference because people can no longer use the excuse that they didn’t understand what Antisemitism is to excuse their actual Antisemitism

    No doubt the Jew hating anti-Zionist and anti-Israel Antisemites tactics will change, but the war will most likely continue

    1. Not at all, the IHRA is falsely defining antisemitism to prevent anti-Israel and anti-Zionist posts and now it seems denying that something is antisemitic.

      What a fool this Starmer is.

  6. Anyone here watch that Arsenal TV, where the fans turn on their team after the game and come up with about 40 excuses why they lost again? Bent ref, shit players, terrible tactics, mean owners. All the bollox.

    That’s Michael and Bellers, that !

    Quite funny to watch.

    1. Chance here for Dobby to explain(or attempt to) why HE thinks the mural was antisemitic.

      Giddy up, Dobbin. Off you go.

      1. Still going on about that Michael?

        The game’s over and you lost. Moaning that it was never a penalty won’t change the result and just makes you look pissy. Learn from your defeat and become better.

      2. Are reading and comprehension not your thing Farmgirl ?
        ?
        Or have you not worked out how to follow a link ?
        ?

        1. Just wondering whether you read anything in the link that convinced you that it was antisemitic.

          Did you? Pray tell us what convinced you.

          Another chance here for Dobby to explain(or attempt to) why HE thinks the mural was antisemitic.

          Giddy up, Dobbin. Off you go(again).

          2. “I sincerely regret that I did not look more closely at the image I was commenting on, the contents of which are deeply disturbing and anti-Semitic.

            “I am opposed to the production of anti-Semitic material of any kind, and the defence of free speech cannot be used as a justification for the promotion of anti-Semitism in any form.”

            That’s a quote from your former Fuhrer…..in case you haven’t worked that one out ?

            ?

            Not the brightest are you Farmgirl?

            1. Funny how Farmgirl had so much to say about this…and now nothing ?

              ?

              Or has Farmgirl been kidnapped ?

              ?????

            2. Yep, for whatever reason Corbyn eventually said it was offensive.

              Stop trying to slither out of it, Dobbin.

              Why is the mural antisemitic? C’mon, don’t waffle … off yo ugo. Explain.

              1. Really?
                ?
                You are still pushing this one?
                Even though Corbyn himself said it was antisemitic that suddenly isn’t good enough for you?

                ?

                What a disgusting racist fool you are Farmgirl…

  8. Stephen

    You want a considered opinion

    You’ve never offered a considered option on anything here, even when one has been requested from you.

    So it’s really rather presumptuous, if not downright rude, to expect a considered opinion from someone else.

  9. This won’t help your mood Michael. Seems the daft old Trot has dusted off his keffiyeh and is planning an appeal against his suspension.

    This is going to kill so many political careers that future Labour conferences are going to be like Liverpool games and will need to start an hour early to fit in all the minutes silences (Sorry DC).

    1. Just because those on here pay scant attention to truth shouldnn’t stop those who value it from insisting on it.

      1. Michael, just stop and remind yourself once in a while that you’ve played the lies and smears card for 6 years now and just keep losing. It’s probably helped the Zio Lobby to win having such predictable and impotent opponents. Is this how you saw it going when you started?

        1. It’s that Collier and the ‘UK Jewish(Zionist) Community’ have lied and smeared for 6 years now, nature of the beast I suppose.

  10. Michael

    You are the dimwit

    The IHRA specifically states that criticism of Israel is legitimate; the proviso is that it is proportionate to criticism leveled at all the other countries in the world.

    Criticism of Israel often tends to go way beyond the proportional, and ceases to be reasonable and equal to how other countries are criticized.

    It is only Antisemitic racist bigots who have a problem with the IHRA because they can no longer conceal their Antisemitism behind anti-Israel and anti-Zionist rhetoric.

    Your comments try to hide behind anti-Israel and anti-Zionist rhetoric because they are in the main unreasonable and repetitive in their continuous nitpicking about Israel, and your attempts to deJudaise the Holocaust. You are also always trying to deny the Jews any connection to the Holy Land

    You might not be an Antisemite in the same vein as our ex-Nazi sympathiser and self confessed Jew Baiting Antisemitic Racist Bigots, but your rhetoric is very Antisemitic

    1. “attempts to deJudaise the Holocaust.”

      The Holocaust happened …. it wasn’t a Jewish holocaust …. it was a holocaust that produced many victims of many ethnicities. Stop attempting to wipe non-Jews from History. Almost Holocaust denial on your part.

          1. The Holocaust, also known as the Shoah,[c] was the World War II genocide of the European Jews. Between 1941 and 1945, across German-occupied Europe, Nazi Germany and its collaborators systematically murdered some six million Jews, around two-thirds of Europe’s Jewish population.[a][d]

            The murders were carried out in pogroms and mass shootings; by a policy of extermination through work in concentration camps; and in gas chambers and gas vans in German extermination camps, chiefly Auschwitz, Bełżec, Chełmno, Majdanek, Sobibór, and Treblinka in occupied Poland.[4]

            The Holocaust…..

            Location : Nazi Germany and German-occupied Europe

            Description : Genocide of the European Jews

            Date : 1941–1945[2]

            Attack type : Genocide, ethnic cleansing

            Deaths : Around 6 million Jews[a]

            Other victims of Nazi persecution during the Holocaust era: 11 million[b]

            Perpetrators : Nazi Germany and its collaborators

            Motive : Antisemitism, racism

            1. Yep, 17 million during the Holocaust era.

              That’s what I said. Yet we only hear of the Jewish dead don’t we?

              Us, us, us.

              1. Maybe it’s because the Jews were deliberately targeted by the Nazis and succeeded in murdering 66% of the Jews of Europe…?

                Unless you can think of another religious group that suffered a higher percentage loss?

                ?

              2. Anyone else here notice that whenever things in the real world are going badly for Muck and his worldview (Jeremy Corbyn being publicly ruined certainly qualifies) he drops the mask and reveals the Nazi sympathizer underneath? I noticed.

  11. Michael

    What are you talking about. You are a total goofball
    You are obsessed with Israel.

    Corbyn is an Antisemetic bigot and you sit in his shadow

  12. Michael

    You Antisemitic bigot, there was only one Holocaust and it was directed specifically at the Jews.

    There were, and still are many genocides.

    But an Antisemite like you will always try to either minimize, denigrate and/or deJudaise the Holocaust

      1. Correct Farmgirl…the Jews were deliberately targeted by the Nazis who succeeded in murdering 66% of the Jews of Europe…?

        Can you think of another religious group that suffered a higher percentage loss?

  13. Michael

    You are an Antisemetic dimwit

    Millions upon millions died because of the genocide perpetrated by the Nazi’s.

    Six million Jews died in the Holocaust. The Holocaust is unfortunately a very Jewish genocide because of the attitude and actions directed specifically at the Jews.

    The German racial laws of the 1930’s were unique and particular to the Jews. Nazi ideology had as one of its central planks, hatred particular only to the Jews. Hitler’s anti-Jewish hatred was apparent from the very beginning in Mein Kamf.

    I don’t expect you to know anything about Jews and Judaism and our history, but please keep your ignorance and Antisemitic arguments to yourself

    1. …. the Roma, Poles, the infirm …. tickled to death by the Nazis were they …. on sofas?

      Not another who implies only Jews suffered. Sick.

      1. The Jews were deliberately targeted by the Nazis who succeeded in murdering 66% of the Jews of Europe…?

        Can you think of another religious group that suffered a higher percentage loss?

        1. Were the Roma, the infirm and the mentally infirm not targeted for destruction, Dobbin? Only religious Jews was it?

          Shame on you.

          1. 66% of European Jews died in those gas chambers Farmgirl….

            Please let me know of any other religious groups that suffered a higher (or even equal) percentage loss…

            Looking forward to your reply with much excitement….

      2. Honestly Michael, you should hear yourself. You suffered a defeat yesterday and rather than learn from it you’ve been such a shocking loser; banging on about murals all day and now doing your silly accounting point on the holocaust, as if there’s VAR and you can get results changed if you whine enough.

        It should be clear to you that the lies and smears tactic has failed. Sticking with it and expecting different outcomes after 6 years of failure is I’ll advised. But what do I care? Your impotence helped the Zio Lobby to win. They’re smart guys.

  14. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/mar/28/antisemitism-open-your-eyes-jeremy-corbyn-labour

    Our very own Farmgirl doesn’t think the Mural referenced in this article is in any way antisemitic…

    This is in spite of the former Labour leader (Herr Corbyn) stating that is clearly is antisemitic….

    Farmgirl also takes exception to the holocaust being referred to as the Jewish holocaust….

    Farmgirl also hates Jewish poetry…he thinks that Jewish poetry is inferior to non Jewish poetry….just because it’s Jewish….

    Farmgirl is a bit of a c@nt….

    Don’t be like Farmgirl….

    That is all….

    1. The mural wasn’t antisemitic because it was anti-oloigarch NOT antisemitic.

      Dobbin cannot tell us why HE thinks it is antisemitic.

      The Holocaust saw many die … not just Jews.

      Dobbin fantasizes.

      1. The Guardian (yes the Guardian) said the Mural was antisemitic….

        Even the former Labour MP for Islington North said the Mural was antisemitic….

        And yes Farmgirl says it wasn’t antisemitic?

        Farmgirl is clearly a bit of a c@nt….

        Don’t be like Farmgirl….

        That is all…..

      2. Busing tables is chastised jeremy corbyns new job – one he’s really qualified for.

        Happy Nakba!

    1. David doesn’t know, but if you’re against it he knows that you’re an antisemite. Frightening really.

    1. Michael. I think you’re slipping into deep denial. This part of your game is over and your team lost. It played a very bad game and fell into the hands of a Zio Lobby that played a much more effective one.

      You have to let this one go. Learn from the failure and try to come back stronger. Bellers is anticipating much better days when he releases his Magnum Opus in a week That may cheer you up a bit.

        1. Wonder who the next Labour MP for Islington North will be?

          Wonder if he/she will be pro Zionist and /or Jewish?

          Mwahahahahahaha….

          Happy Halloween Farmgirl….

          ???☠️

  17. Michael

    You dimwit.

    Of course the Roma and all the other genocides were recognized for the abominable evil they were.

    The Holocaust though, was a unique and evil genocide directed specifically at the Jews.

    Hitler and the Nazi’s had a particular venom directed towards the Jews as evidenced by the specifically anti-Jewish laws enacted from the onset of Nazi rule.

    Stop your Antisemitic attempts to deJudaise the Holocaust

    1. Richard, you’ve just told us that others were murdered in the chambers and the ovens by the Nazis wishing to rid the world of those that they found undesirable.

      Why do insist on wiping them from History? You’re scum.

    2. Just a reminder from your friendly neighbourhood Rabbi that supporters of Israel, known as Zionists, like to claim that Jews were exclusively the victims of the so-called “Holocaust” when in fact, many others, ethnic groups, etc… were also targeted for genocide.

      Zionists believe that playing the antisemitism card provides a plausible excuse for the sorry existence of the racist, apartheid state of Israel – which also shares an astounding number of similarities with Nazi Germany.

      Now if you’ll excuse me, I’ve got to pray.

      Shabbat shalom.

      1. ImaM Oron,

        Is it IslamoFAUXbic for the Israelis to be NOT the unarmed Jews of WW2 and Khybar?

        No matter what, your prayers for victory over the Jews have been rejected.

        Happy Nakba! 🙂

    2. Dumb Bellamy, the GREATEST enemy of Muslims is….

      FELLOW Muslims.

      – 500,000 dead in Syrian Civil War
      – 1,000,000 dead in 8 year Iraq/Fascist Iran war
      – Taliban
      – ISIS / Al Qada
      – Muslim Brotherhood
      – Sunni / Shiite rivalry
      – terrorist attacks against Infidels ruin the reputation of “The Religion of Peace”

      Happy Nakba!
      Happy Halloween!

  19. Remember the Mural that Collier spun as antisemitic(another falsehood)

    The artist himself describes its meaning.

    “I came to paint a mural that depicted the elite banker cartel known as the Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Morgans, the ruling class elite few, the Wizards of Oz. They would be playing a board game of monopoly on the backs of the working class. The symbol of the Free Mason [sic] Pyramid rises behind this group and behind that is a polluted world of coal burning and nuclear reactors. I was creating this piece to inspire critical thought and spark conversation. A group of conservatives do not like my mural and are playing a race card with me. My mural is about class and privilege. The banker group is made up of Jewish and white Anglos. For some reason they are saying I am anti-semitic. This I am most definitely not… What I am against is class.”

    But when has truth ever been important to Zionists such as Collier.

    1. Oh dear Michael. Your team just lost 5-0. You’re doing your post match interview to the cameras and moaning about the penalty decision that went against you in the second half.

      It doesn’t change the result and just let’s your team down. Learn from defeat and move on

      1. Result showed that Labour wasn’t institutionally antisemitic and that Corbyn hasn’t an antisemitic bone in his body..

        You reckon David (The Truth Matters) Collier has been lying these past 5 years? I do.

        2. > Corbyn hasn’t an antisemitic bone in his body..

          After all corbyn is an invertebrate.

          P.S. LaBOOR did suspend corbyn for his defamation of the socialist LaBOOR party.

    2. The Guardian (yes the Guardian) said the Mural was antisemitic….

      Even the former Labour MP for Islington North said the Mural was antisemitic….

      And yet Farmgirl says it wasn’t antisemitic?

      Farmgirl is clearly a bit of a c@nt….

      Don’t be like Farmgirl….

      That is all…..

      1. Obviously Dobbin can’t see anything antisemitic in the mural so has scrabbled round to find those that say they can.

        I suggest that Dobbin himself looks at the mural and writes down what hev sees as antisemitic. Fair enough?

        Should be interesting. Don’t worry if you can’t, Dobbin, David couldn’t …. he just said he could … but that’s David’s ‘character’.

        Go on… have a look.

        1. Nick Wright, in an article for the Morning Star, wrote that while, of the six figures depicted – Lord Rothschild, John D. Rockefeller, J. P. Morgan, Aleister Crowley, Andrew Carnegie and Paul Warburg – only two (Rothschild and Warburg) were Jewish, the piece “clearly exaggerates the distinctive features of all six men” and that “exaggerated depictions of Jews are created, disseminated and understood in a historically defined context that includes a powerful, even dominant, discourse that draws upon the long traditions of anti-semitism embedded in the dominant ideology and expressed, over the centuries, in the dominant visual culture”.

          Further he states “the subterranean narratives around notions of the Illuminati, Freemasonry and bourgeois conspiracies cannot, in much popular imagination, be disentangled from deeply suspect discourses in which alien, semitic and covert elites are the controlling forces in our lives”, and concludes “This is bad art and worse politics”.

          This is from the same wiki article that you lifted your quote from Farmgirl….

          Only you “forgot” to post it here so I’m doing it for you…

          So The Morning Star thinks the Mural was antisemitic….but Farmgirl doesn’t ?

          ?

          Doesn’t this just tell you all you need to know about Farmgirl ?

          ?

          1. … and Dobbin STILL can’t tell us why it is antisemitic, just keeps quoting others.

            6 oligarchs Only 2( aminority)are Jewish. Like Israel I suppose(a minority)

            Waste of space.

            1. Farmgirl cannot understand the written English language….

              Farmgirl is clearly as thick as pigsh1t….

              ?

              Don’t be like Farmgirl….

              That is all….

    3. Sharmuta, Your “paleswinians”are cut from the same cloth as the jihadis who have been stabbing people to death in France.

  20. Brucie, the Holocaust and Holocaust survivors denigrator

    Where have I, or for that matter any Jews on this blog (and possibly the majority of world Jewry) ever denied the Nazi’s genocide and suffering of millions of non-Jews.

    Bruce, you are either a fantasist or a liar, or both.

    Your hatred for anything Israeli, Zionistic, and/or main stream Jewish Orthodoxy has coloured and polluted your mind to such a degree that you are unable to separate fact and fiction in certain circumstances

    From your posts here I think your religion seems to have become that of ‘progressive politics and selective human rights’

    1. “selective human rights’”?

      … as in Israel’s Nation Law

      ‘The right to exercise national self-determination in the State of Israel is unique to the Jewish people.’

      ‘The state anthem is “Hatikvah”.’

      1. There is a big clue in the Israeli flag as to what kind of a state it is…
        ??
        Can you spot it Farmgirl ?

        ?

        2. Speaking of flags, take a look at the symbol smack in the middle of the flag of Islamofascist Iran.

          It’s something you will find in Gray’s anatomy – “Ladies Private Parts”.

          Women have to cover up – but the flag is an anatomical lesson.

    2. Show some respect Stinky Dick. It’s ‘Rabbi Dr. Levy’ if you please.

  21. Michael

    Your incoherent, illogical and out of context posts make no sense.

    What exactly are you trying to say in your demented anger and frustration.

    I agree that millions suffered and died in the Nazi genocide; so what are you complaining about and why does this make me scum

    I think the EHRC report has gotten to you and thrown into doubt all of your entrenched biases against Jews, Israel, Israelis and Zionists

    1. He’s very cross Richard and you can see why, poor soul. 6 years of work ends in messy defeat for him and he can’t come to terms with it.

    2. Quite pleased that the Labour party was shown not to be institutionally antisemitic and Jeremy was found not to be antisemitic. But then you all knew that.

      1. Wonder what the former Labour MP for Islington North will do in his (enforced) retirement ?

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        Grow some more vegetables maybe?

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        Happy Halloween Farmgirl

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  22. Hasn’t been a good few weeks for the Israel (Jew) haters has it ?
    ??
    Peace with UAE ??
    Peace with Bahrain ??
    Peace with Sudan ??
    The Hamas/Hezbollah loving former leader of the Labour Party can no longer even call himself a Labour MP…

    It’s a bit of a pickle innit ?

    ????

    1. Peace with UAE
      Peace with Bahrain
      Peace with Sudan

      You forgot the scrapping of Israel’s illegal annexation and confirmation that those countries will block any future attempt.

      1. Spin it however you like Farmgirl…

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        Peace is breaking out all over the Middle East….

        Arab countries are queuing up to do business with Israel and the BDS movement has been shown up to be a spectacular failure….

        Happy Halloween Farmgirl

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  23. Michael

    Jeremy Corbyn presided over a major Antisemitic period within Labour when he was leader.

    Jeremy Corbyn is no longer leader of the Labour Party and the tidal wave of Antisemitism has subsided

    When Hitler ruled Germany there was a tsunami of Antisemitism.

    When Hitler was defeated the Antisemitic tsunami subsided.

    Jeremy Corbyn allowed Antisemitism to flourish.

    Thus to me Jeremy Corbyn is an Antisemite

    You Michael talk the language of the Antisemite, so I accept that you too are an Antisemite

    1. Socialism allows Antisemitism to flourish.

      Funny that the left cries about right-wing parties while they embrace ULTRA RIGHT-WING HamASS, Hezbola, Fascist Iran.

    2. “Jeremy Corbyn presided over a major Antisemitic period within Labour when he was leader.”

      Report shows that he didn’t. He actually improved the reporting and disciplining anf any signs of it.

      The noise was created by those who falsely accused.

      Read the report. So disappointing for David after all his personal smears were found to be just that.

      1. The report by the Equality and Human Rights Commission (EHRC) is vindication in full for those who spent more than four years warning that Labour was becoming poisoned by antisemitism. The findings of the independent investigators are also a searing rebuke to the cheerleaders and apologists for Corbynism who tried to deny, ignore, downplay or excuse the malignancy.

        The EHRC finds Labour guilty of harassment and discrimination and confirms that Mr Corbyn’s office interfered in the handling of antisemitism cases to such an extent that it was “unlawful”. The investigators “uncovered serious failings” in the way complaints were dealt with and says “a significant number” were not investigated at all. As for the man presiding over this, the EHRC observes that “a lack of leadership within the Labour party on these issues… is hard to reconcile with its stated commitment to a zero-tolerance approach to antisemitism”. Put more bluntly: he said one thing while doing another.

        Disgusting really….

  24. Michael

    David’s reporting on the tidal wave of Antisemitism in Labour was correct. You got it wrong

    Since Corbyn is no longer Labour leader, the tidal wave of Antisemitism in the party has subsided.

    That a dimwit like you is unable to comprehend that you got it wrong is the tragedy.

    The flood of new members to Labour on Corbyn’s coattails is now being rectified with the hemorrhaging of Antisemitic members leaving the party after the ‘great leaders’ dethroning

    He, wittingly or unwittingly, brought Antisemitism into the party and his leaving has cured the party of its malaise.

    At some point you’re going to have to get over your loss, otherwise you should go and get some bereavement or other counselling

      1. Loathsome LaBOOR LOST in 2019, due to its policies, friends, leadership.

        Maybe Sharmuta thinks that LaBOOR WON in 2019.

        LOL!

        Happy Nakba!

  25. I’ve just suggested that the poor demented sod gets some counselling.

    That will probably lead to another deluge of inane, incoherent, repetitive comments that invariably miss the point and in any case seldom make any sense

    2. Richard, Michael and the Trots and our Arab neighbours have always been unwittingly helpful to us. Neither has the first clue how to win and they expend so much energy eating their own that they loose sight of their objective; gaining power and influence.so that they can get the things that they want.

      They are much stiffer opponents to themselves than they will ever be to their real targets whether it’s UK political opponents or Israel.

      There certainly seems to be a strong appetite amongst the Socialists to continue this in-fighting just as there has always been amongst the Arsbs and we can look in from the sidelines and watch their continued duscomfort and disarray with some voyeuristic pleasure.

  26. Michael

    You’re just a whicky whacky sore loser that always has to find someone else to blame for their perceived insecurities and inadequacies

    Instead of continuously posting here, maybe you should get a life doing something else as well.

    If you’re postings were things, they would be classified as a serious pollution problem

  27. Read in the UK media that so-called “Jewish leaders” are denouncing Halloween as antisemitic because it fell on a Saturday this year which is Shabbat, and thus excludes Jews from participating.

    ANTISEMITISM!!

    That blood-sucking “Rabbi” “Zio Dracula” Mervis is demanding that in the future, Labour disassociates itself from observing or promoting Halloween in any way, shape or form, and that even if any member distributes sweets to trick-or-treaters, members of the household should be suspended from the party, and expelled if necessary.

    That’ll teach em.

    Happy Halloween all!

    1. Rest easy everyone. Michael has been talked off the edge.

      Days of desperate posting about bloody murals, complete denial about his defeat and a reluctance to learn from it had me worried.

      Now, I see that like every good student of the self help programme he defaults to the mantra when things get tough. For Michael that’s a nice reassuring “Nakba, that reminds me….”

      Normal service is resumed and the clock can be reset.

      DAYS SINCE LAST JEW HATER BREAKDOWN 0

        1. Hey Bellers, Are you talking about the chip at Michael when I correctly pointed out that the self help patient always defaults to Mantra when they’re in bother?

          You do the same. Noteworthy that you guys have such distinct styles but always end up reverting back to the same page of the traing manual.

  28. Yep, quite a week.

    Labour got a slapped wrist for not following procedures. (as LFI Tom Watson attempted to do).

    Jeremy NOT an antisemite.

    Labour Party NOT institutionally antisemitic.

    But David said they were.

    Was David lying? Again?

    2. Joining the victory parade in London today then Michael? Should be a real solidarity event for your team and definitely one that will bring all those disaffected UK labour voters back into the fold. Very much what you lads need. A real party atmosphere to show everyone how together you lot really are.

      1. Well, probably David Worm will be there snapping photos of those who are standing up for truth.

        Expect another blag full of untruths and smears … the usual diet.

        1. Indeed Michael. David’s been very effective. All those millions of gullible people being influenced by lies and smears and nobody is listening to you.

          No use complaining day in day out. Be better. Be like David.

          1. “All those millions of gullible people being influenced by lies and smears” … and most appear to be Jewish. Mmm.

            1. Only there aren’t millions of Jews here in the UK are there Farmgirl…?

              There are only around 200k

              Less than 0.3% of the UK electorate is Jewish….

              So…is Farmgirl an idiot?

              Mmmmmm….

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      2. If there’s a large crowd David may be jostled, prompting another fairy story about how a Jews was almost trampled to death by rabid, toxic, far-left friends of Jeremy Corbyn showing that Jews must quickly move to his favourite land, Israel.

        … or he may just stay in his comfy UK where he really belongs.

          1. Well, you can’t Dobbin ….. but you’ve seen a newspaper where someone says that they can.

            I tthink that you’re really a parrot … who can’t think … but can type.

            1. “I tthink that you’re really a parrot …”

              Don’t stutter…

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              Yes I can type

              Pity it’s wasted on your ignorance…

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              The jig is up for the disgusting Corbyn…

              That is all….

  30. Brucie the Holocaust and Holocaust survivors denigrator

    Spewing your meaningless bile again

    Maybe you should go to a Yeshiva to learn the meaning of the vocation of Rabbinic theology

    1. I think for bile you need to look at David’s blag, the Jewish Chronicle, Jewish News, B.o.D, Jeremy Hunt, Chief Rabbi, bla bla

    2. Hey Stinky Dick, I comment about Halloween and politics, and you talk about religion and denigrate my persona. WTF?!

      I’ll pray for your salvation, but Hashem assured me that you’ll receive eternal torment once you become a good Zionist.

      Israel is an apartheid state; it’s new name is #COVID48

      Now if you’ll excuse me, I’ve got to pray, so have a blessed day.

      Free Palestine.

      1. ImaM Oron, What’s the deal with you sniffing Dicks? Isn’t tasting them enough for ya?

        From the River to the Sea,
        Pal-e-SLIME Will Never Be!

  31. Brucie Brucie the Holocaust and Holocaust survivors denigrator

    You are a pretentious clown that can’t really understand religion considering the type of language you employ

  32. EHRC report :

    Unlawful harassment

    Two individuals are identified whose antisemitic conduct the Labour Party is responsible for, resulting in a finding of unlawful harassment. Their conduct included using antisemitic tropes and suggesting that complaints of antisemitism were fake or smears. These comments were made by Ken Livingstone, former Mayor of London and a former member of the Labour Party’s National Executive Committee, and social media posts made by Pam Bromley, a Labour Party local authority councillor in Rossendale. As these people were acting as agents of the Labour Party, the Labour Party was legally responsible for their conduct.
    _______________________________

    Well, couldn’t find Jeremy’s name in there at all.

    Seems like David’s countless attacks on Corbyn were indeed smears and lies.

    Whoops … I’ve just said something ‘unacceptable’. Deary me.

    1. Michael. Will you be attending the Victory Parade today to show all the socialist voters that their party is united behind its former leader and that they can now all return to a wholly exonerated and cohesive political party?

    2. Fantastic article in the Observer today Farmgirl….

      I would recommend that you check it out but I know that reading English and understanding it is not really your thing is it?

      Still…here is my favourite bit of it….

      “The victim of this hideous chapter in Labour’s history is not Jeremy Corbyn. The victims are those who were scared and scarred by the vile antisemitism that occurred when he was in charge.

      The victims are all those who needed an electable challenger to the Tories, not the toxic and sectarian party that Labour became under Mr Corbyn.

      The victims are the many millions of people who depend on having a Labour party capable of commanding the confidence of the public so that it can effectively represent those it exists to champion.

      Jeremy Corbyn is no martyr. He is a victim only of his own arrogantly self-pitying, self-denying delusions.”

      Have a great Sunday Farmgirl….mine couldn’t be any better….

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        1. Did you know that there is a Jerusalem Tavern in Islington of all places?

          Apparently Jezbollah never goes there as it’s not owned by Palestinians….

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  33. Michael

    For anti-Jewish and Antisemitic bile we can look to you

    If every Jewish news outlet and organisation is spewing bile according to you, then the problem is with you and your perception and dealings with Jews

    You are obsessed with Jews, Israel, Israelis, Zionism and Zionists. You have a problem and I think you may be suffering from Antisemitic disorder syndrome

  34. Brucie Brucie the Holocaust and Holocaust survivors denigrator and pretend rabbi

    It is you that specializes in personal insults and attacks.

    You claim to be a rabbi and doctor, yet the language you employ is that of the gutter and sewer.

    It is you that employs negative Holocaust imagery and tries to minimize the extent of the Holocaust

    It is you that employs childish name calling that is more appropriately found in unsupervised kindergarten

    If you don’t like the way I address you, then improve your own behaviour

  37. Quite funny that after writing a blag headed “The decapitation of Europe’s freedom” David applauds Starmer for suspending Corbyn’s right to free speech and truth.

    Weathervane?

    1. Just look at the millions swarming the streets of London this afternoon in support of the former Labour MP for Islington North….

      ????

      2. …. surpassed only by the false accusations of antisemitism we’ve had over the past 5 years.

  38. Michael

    Jeremy Corbyn is a Antisemite as far as we are concerned

    You lost, David was right; get over it

    Go and get a life, as the amount you post here trying to insult David tends to signify that he plays a rather large part in your sad life

    1. But he wasn’t right was he?

      He proclaimed Corbyn to be antisemitic. He wasn’t.

      He painted Labour to be ‘institutionally antisemitic’. It wasn’t.

      Now Corbyn has a chance to show how few actual cases there were, and how much smearing went on.

  40. Michael

    You live in fantasy land

    Has it escaped your notice that David permits you to post endlessly on his blog. He could easily block you

    Many people read this blog and see your silly, childish and occasionally nasty posts, and have confirmation that the Antisemitic trolls that inhabit the nether regions of the internet (like you) are very much driven by their hate of Jews

      1. Still pushing your Taqiyya/Lies we see.

        Happy Nakba!

        If Islam is “The Religion of Peace”,

        why was a French teacher beheaded over a stupid cartoon of a stupid “prophet”?

  41. Stephen

    Your made up term ‘Israelists’ is rather meaningless outside of the sphere of the Israel bashers.

    You still haven’t had either the decency or manners to answer my question as to why you called Israel a ‘basketcase’. You said that a few years ago, and I have asked you numerous times to explain.

    I know you like to play the pretend ‘village idiot’, but that doesn’t prevent you from having the courtesy to reply to a question asked of you

  42. Michael

    There you go again with your Antisemitic trope about Jews and their malign intent with money

    Your oft repeated copy and paste comment;

    ………”No ‘Collier research’ into Tory antisemitism. He’s a fraud.
    ………..Doesn’t fight antisemitism … he only smears Labour … for money”

    Everybody works for money, but Farmer thinks that for us Jews we have unlimited power and money, so David is not entitled to ask for donations

    Your rhetoric is Antisemitic Michael

    1. If you think my post is a trope then the problem is yours, especially given that a few lines on you post “Everybody works for money”.

      Don’t tell Farmer what Farmer thinks, Richard. You haven’t the mind.

  43. Michael

    If there is anyone on this blog who is a parrot that can type, but can’t think, it will be you.

    Your nonsensical, incoherent one liners that invariably have nothing to do with the other posts you try to comment on pollute this site with irrelevant stupidity and low level Antisemitism

  44. Michael

    You have just posted this in reply to me

    ……”Still pushing your untruths I see.”

    Please tell me what untruths I’m pushing with a little detail, rather than your contextless and meaningless one liners

    1. You say that I have a hatred of Jews. An untruth.

      Was that clear enough for Richard to comprehend? Yes? No?.

      1. You clearly do have a hatred of Jews Farmgirl…

        So it is you who is the liar….

        That is all….

  45. Michael

    Corbyn is an Antisemite by association with and condoning Antisemitics and Antisemitism

    Corbyn allowed Antisemitism to run rife in the Labour Party, so while he was in control it became Institutionally Antisemitic as per the MacPherson Report on the Death of Stephen Lawrence opined

    You can twist and turn and contrive to alter the truth, but the EHRC report which is couched in legalese language says that Corbyn and ‘his’ Labour Party were Institutionally Antisemitic

    1. “Corbyn and ‘his’ Labour Party were Institutionally Antisemitic”

      Where did it conclude that, Richard? Show me.

      1. The report by the Equality and Human Rights Commission (EHRC) is vindication in full for those who spent more than four years warning that Labour was becoming poisoned by antisemitism. The findings of the independent investigators are also a searing rebuke to the cheerleaders and apologists for Corbynism who tried to deny, ignore, downplay or excuse the malignancy.

        The EHRC finds Labour guilty of harassment and discrimination and confirms that Mr Corbyn’s office interfered in the handling of antisemitism cases to such an extent that it was “unlawful”.

        The investigators “uncovered serious failings” in the way complaints were dealt with and says “a significant number” were not investigated at all. As for the man presiding over this, the EHRC observes that “a lack of leadership within the Labour party on these issues… is hard to reconcile with its stated commitment to a zero-tolerance approach to antisemitism”. Put more bluntly: he said one thing while doing another.

        Disgusting really….

  46. Michael

    You say that you don’t have an issue with Jews but the evidence tells another story.

    ………”You say that I have a hatred of Jews. An untruth.”

    You castigate all the Jewish organisations and news media as having an agenda driven by malign intent.

    Your language describes your viewpoint, and it’s not partial to Jews and often descends into low level Antisemitic rhetoric.

    1. Richard, what you term ‘Jewish organisations’ are actually organisations of Zionist bent. The Borad of Deputies is comprised of Zionists, the tabloids have Zionist editors and reporters. They don’t look kindly on a leader or a party that supports the Palestinians’ move for a state of their own.

      It is this façade that you are blind to. I’m not against Jews, I’m against Zionists claiming to be the ‘Jewish Community’ and gathering like sheep to push lies and smears which you know is all this blog does.

      Antisemitism is taking against Jews just because they are Jews. The IHRA def. is a manufactured catch-all definition for the benefit of Israel which does NOT define world Jewry.

      1. The definition of Zionism….

        A movement that supports the RETURN of the Jewish people to their ancestral homeland and the RESUMPTION of Jewish sovereignty on that homeland…..

        The key words in the above sentence are in CAPITALS

        What Zionism is to the vast majority of Israel haters…..

        A substitute for the word JEW that allows bigoted anti-semites to hide their racist intent…..

        The fact is that Zionism was born out of centuries of Jew hatred and persecution …..and those that seek to delegitimize it / destroy it…..are themselves living proof of it’s need to exist….

  47. Michael

    You say you do not have a problem with Jews, yet you post drivel like this,

    ….”“All those millions of gullible people being influenced by lies and smears” … and most appear to …..be Jewish. Mmm.”

    So in your opinion millions Jews are ‘gullible’ and influenced by ‘lies and ‘smears and are incapable of having normal thoughts without them being driven by the hidden hand of the evil ‘Jewish Cabal’.

    Now if that doesn’t display a problematic and Antisemitic attitude to Jews then you live in the twilight zone

    1. In my opinion Richard, those that gathered in parliament square claiming widespread antisemitism in the Labour Party were indeed gullible as the EHRC report clearly showed.

      It was a rent-a-mob.

      Jewish Cabal? No. Zionist Cabal

      1. The definition of Zionism….

        A movement that supports the RETURN of the Jewish people to their ancestral homeland and the RESUMPTION of Jewish sovereignty on that homeland…..

        The key words in the above sentence are in CAPITALS

        What Zionism is to the vast majority of Israel haters…..

        A substitute for the word JEW that allows bigoted anti-semites to hide their racist intent…..

        The fact is that Zionism was born out of centuries of Jew hatred and persecution …..and those that seek to delegitimize it / destroy it…..are themselves living proof of it’s need to exist….

        ❤️

        1. Many peoples have lived on that land. Are you saying that having once lived there gives a people the right to always live there to the exclusion of others? Don’t Arabs claim the same?

          Haven’t many Jews got ancestral land in Eastern Europe?

          Need to exist? Most Jews live happily and safely elsewhere in the world. Israel doesn’t NEED to exist.

          2. “Most Jews live happily and safely elsewhere in the world. Israel doesn’t NEED to exist”

            But Israel does exist Farmgirl….

            It is recognised for the reality that it is by over 160 countries….

            And this number is growing not shrinking….

            The Palestinians were offered a country but chose to turn it down…

            So their “plight” is bogus and entirely self inflicted and therefore not worthy of the sympathy or attention of anyone who is not a bona-fide Jew hater….

            That is all….

        2. “and the RESUMPTION of Jewish sovereignty on that homeland…..”

          … achieved by the ethnic cleansing of much of the existing population by Jewish militia by destroying their villages.

          1. 800,000 Jews were threatened with death, evicted, ran for their lives from Arab countries like Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Egypt, Yemem, Lebanon.

            700,000 Arabs ran from Israel thinking their absence would make it easy for rampaging Arab armies to slaughter anyone left. Those plans didn’t pan out – the Israelis weren’t unarmed and were more motivated to Fight and Defeat Arab Nazis such as the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem and surrounding Sand Nazi countries.

            That’s called a NAKBA.

              1. Dear Rabbi Levy, I have been impressed by your brave and unconventional views and your forthright way of expressing them. Please could you tell me which synagogue you represent so I can find out more about an institution willing to employ a rabbi who openly expresses such strong views. Many thanks.

            2. “800,000 Jews were threatened with death, evicted, ran for their lives from Arab countries like Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Egypt, Yemem, Lebanon.”

              Nope. When Israel was created it’s agents worked in the MENA countries to persuade Jews to emigrate there. The vast majority left willingly. The MENA countries didn’t want them to leave at first.

              1. Tell that little fairy tale to the families of my grandparents who were unceremoniously kicked out of Beirut and Cairo…

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                Fortunately the truth is easy to find…

                Just Google “Jewish Nakba” and you will find out what really happened…

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              2. Sharmuta,

                – Explain what you mean by “persuading”.

                – Why wouldn’t a MENA country want Second Class, Jizyya paying Jews to leave?

          2. The Palestinian Arabs were offered a country back in 1947 like the Jews were but turned it down….

            Silly sods….

            ?

            1. JORDAN on the East Bank of the Jordan River is “palestine”.

              Hence the existing Two-State solution.

            2. They were living in that country while others were giving it to Jews wishing to have a nostalgic adventure.

              1. They were squatting on land that did not belong to them…

                And yet they were offered a country…but turned it down…

                Silly sods…

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  48. Only 0.3% of Labour members have had accusations of antisemitism made against them.

    The figure actually guilty will of course be less.

    1. Sharmuta, the leader of the racist LaBOOR party was kicked out due to his racism.

      When LaBOOR kicks you out, you know you are guilty.

      Happy Nakba to Jeremy Corbin!

  49. Richard, you had a really decent exchange with Michael yesterday and managed to force some rather uncharacteristic and revelatory posts from him which were noteworthy.

    Normally these guys like to talk in vague terms and are desperate to avoid specifics for fear that it will create a static target that they’ll struggle to defend. But yesterday, you caused Michael to open up in far more specific terms about his hostility to the organisation that serve the Jews in the UK, the lens through which he and presumably his team mates view them and the biases and prejudices that derive from this. I wonder if he meant to do this or was driven by the frustrations of the previous days.

    There were two main takeaways for me. Firstly I was delighted never to have considered real discussion with these lunatics and content myself that the best approach is simply to continue coming here to take the piss.

    Secondly the exchange absolutely nailed down for me that when you strip away all their slogans and their limp provocations these are not people who are fighting Jews and Israel. They’re just fighting their own demons. They’ll live and die in their own very narrow lanes and trying to put a mirror up to them is as worthwhile as trying to convince mad Uncle Harold that he isn’t Merlin The Happy Pig.

    Good work.

    1. “Occupied” Bellers. Don’t be daft. You know we do the occupying, right?

      Propped up by those devious Jewish organisations led by fiendish Zio power brokers, hell bent on world domination. Hahahaha!!

      You keep polishing the inside of your silo boychik. It improves the acoustics no end and keeps you and Michael out of trouble.

        1. Oh no Bellers. After The Michael Confessions above there won’t be talking. You can bounce around with each other in your well cushioned room to you hearts content. I’ll stay on the outside and enjoy the show with the odd heckle. As I said, no point in trying to tell Aunty Maureen she’s not a small hamster

                1. Canaries Bellers? They don’t even have thumbs you idiot.

                  Wasn’t budgies a set topic at the Poly ? hahaha!

                  1. They have beaks and claws though. Gnasher doesn’t have thumbs but he was still able to negotiate with the abducting aliens via whats app and save the universe.

                    1. Just got back from a rally to get Jezbollah restored as Labour leader…

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                      I was the only one there…

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  51. Michael

    You ignorant dimwit

    In the time of Jesus the majority of Jews lived in the Jewish kingdoms and areas of Israel, Judea and Samaria and Jerusalem was the capital where the Second Jewish Temple stood before it was destroyed by the Romans

    At the time of Jesus the Romans had not removed the majority of Jews from Judea and Samaria and the other Jewish Kingdoms and taken the Jews into the European exile where we were condemned to live as a discriminated against minority.

    There were no Eastern European Jews in Jerusalem at the time of Jesus because the Jews had not been exiled from their land to Europe you dimwit.

    Did you think you were being clever and smart when you retorted with this mindlessly crass moronic and stupid comment;

    ……….”Mike Farmer on November 2, 2020
    ……..….. and how many Eastern Europeans?

    1. If you’d been more committed to this tactic over the last 6 years Bellers, do you think that the daft old Trot would still be the leader of the UK Labour Party ?

      1. There are underlying assumptions to that dumb fuck question

        Assumption 1

        That I give a flying fuck about the daft old trot and think about him any more then I think about Accrington Stanley

        Assumption 2

        That I give a flying fuck about the Labour Party and who may be leading it and that I think about it any more than I think about ……

        1. Seems odd that you wouldn’t care about the demise of Jezbollah given how Palestinian issues and the waving of Palestinian flags was a major part of Labour conferences when he was leader?

          Do you think we will see those flags again now Kier is in charge?

          1. Ken, old Bellers is the Asst. VP of flying fucks and the art of not giving them. Bellers only boards the Flying Fuck plane when his demons tell him to.

            He did share a lovely story once about his very loose connection with Israel during his gap yaah (actually 9 months) when he spent a happy time as a Bedouin brickie, building shithouses for the locals. I don’t think they asked. He has re-purposed this skill here with enthusiasm but with similarly precarious results.

            Basically a 5.5 on the Mike-o-meter.

  53. It’s very simple really………

    Since when were Arabic speaking Arabs from the Arabian Peninsula the indigenous peoples of a Hebrew / Aramaeic speaking country ?

    Fact is that Jews/Israelites were speaking Hebrew in a country called Israel nearly 2,000 years BEFORE the 1st Arab even turned up

    The Arab invasion of the Middle East took place in the 7th century….and because of that the Arabs now control 99.6% of the Middle East…..

    And yet (laughably) it is ISRAEL that are accused of being the land thieves ????

    Is 99.6% of the land really NOT ENOUGH ??

    Are you REALLY THAT GREEDY ????

    Stop stealing Jewish land that you have no legal claim to…..and then maybe there will be peace in the Middle East one day…?

      1. Except the Jews created an actual country…

        With a monarchy and a currency and a system of government…

        They were an independent country and there had been a Jewish majority in that country for around 1400 years when they were evicted by the Romans…

        But you are right to say that the Arabs are not indigenous…..

        They aren’t….

          1. Except the Jews created an actual country…

            With a monarchy and a currency and a system of government…

            They were an independent country and there had been a Jewish majority in that country for around 1400 years when they were evicted by the Romans…

            Posting the above again because you appear to be too thick to have understood it the first time….

            ?

            2. Ok … a bunch of immigrants ….

              Didn’t create a country, the country(which others had lived in) was already there.

            3. … Muslims there for around 1400 years when they were evicted by the Zionists and their backers…

              Same old … same old ..

              1. Israel was a Hebrew / Aramaeic speaking country around 2,000 before the first Arab turned up. And yet somehow the Arabs think that they are the indigenous peoples of that country?

                ?

                And so does Farmgirl…

                ?

                Farmgirl is clearly a bit of a c@nt…

                That is all…

              2. Sharmuta,

                The Jews were in Israel BEFORE Islam came on the scene.

                The Imperialist invaders were Muslims.

                Proof is that there were NO MUSLIMS or mosques in Israel when Jesus the Jew walked the streets of Jerusalem.

  54. 2019 “Tom Watson has said he will take personal charge of antisemitism and bullying complaints made by MPs to bring them to the attention of the Labour leadership, telling colleagues he will hold the party’s management of the complaints to account.”

    Mmm. That’ll be a Labour Friend of Israel interfering in the process of investigating complaints. Good job he left pre EHRC.

  55. Brucie the Holocaust and Holocaust Survivor denigrater and diminisher

    So now we have a so-called rabbi covering for the Antisemitic trope about Jews and their malign association with money

    This is the piece constantly posted by Michael Farmer and now taken up by the so-called rabbi

    ……….”Nakba?

    ………..A reminder from your friendly neighbourhood Rabbi:

    ……… No ‘Collier research’ into Tory antisemitism. He’s a fraud.

    …………Doesn’t fight antisemitism … he only smears Labour … for money.”

    Next the so-called rabbi will be defending Antisemites, and Farmer is in the frame. After seeing the language and sentiments expressed by this so-called rabbi, it is to be expected.

    1. You’re chasing an imaginary rabbit with your ‘trope’ line, Richard …. but it keeps you busy I suppose.

  56. Michael

    You’re a dimwit and a historical ignoramus.

    In 1948 Israel had a war on three fronts from the Lebanese, the Syrians, the Iraqis, the Jordanians, the Egyptians and Arabs and their supporters from further afield. There was also an arms embargo on Israel requiring the nascent state to devote energy, manpower and finances to secure arms, while the Arab states were still receiving weapons

    In your warped imaginations of ‘Jewish Power’ you are saying that the Jews of the nascent State of Israel had the manpower and finances to spread throughout the Arab/Muslim world to force/entice the Jews of those countries to leave. This is after the Holocaust when Israel was trying to absorb thousands of penniless and destitute Holocaust survivors.

    The Antisemitic trope of ‘Jewish Power’ that has been employed for centuries to create hatred of Jews and spark pogroms in which millions of Jews have died over millennia is your new accusation Michael

    Michael, the more you post the more fanciful your claims become; and the more Antisemitic you become

    1. Well, that was a confused load of bullshit wasn’t it, Richard. A product of your ‘mind’.

  57. Stephen

    You are just jealous of Davids success on this blog while yours languishes in the doldrums.

    And anyway we know you harbour a serious animus towards Jonathan Hoffman; and the Chief Rabbi, and the BoD, and the JC and so on and so on, your list of Jews and Jewish organisations being endlessly long

  58. Silly Richard, those aren’t Jews and Jewish organisations … those are Zionists and Zionist organisations, all of them with serious animus towards anyone who has the good of Palestinians at heart.

  60. Michael

    I said that your posts are projecting powers on Jews/Israel in the 1940/50’s that they could not possibly have due to their limited numbers, lack of finance and wars on multiple fronts, and this is your incoherent and vacuous reply

    …………” Mike Farmer on November 2, 2020
    …………..Well, that was a confused load of bullshit wasn’t it, Richard. A product of your ‘mind’

    What exactly are you trying to say, or are you as usual unable to make an intelligent statement, so you waffle stupidly to mask your ignorance.

    Also projections of Jewish power have been one of the mainstays of Antisemitic propaganda for millennia with the claims that malevolent Judaism controls the world; the mural that you have great trouble understanding played on this theme. Possibly you should do a study course on Antisemitism so that you can better understand why some of the ideas and language you use has a long pedigree in the corridors of classic Antisemitism.

    1. Whoever taught you History filled you with rubbish.

      You are still unable to tell the world what was antisemitic about the mural.

      You’re just a liar unable to back up your crap. Another David.

      1. Rubbish like Islam calling itself…

        “The Religion of Peace”.

        See the beheading of the school teacher over cartoons over a fake prophet.

  61. Michael

    You are such a dimwit

    Zionism is the ‘National Liberation Movement of the Jewish People’ I have no doubt you are going to reply with some stupid comment which will only serve to expose your absolute ignorance of mainstream Judaism and the majority of Jews. Jerusalem is mentioned over 700 times in the Torah, and the longing to return to Zion is a recurrent theme in Jewish texts and prayers.

    “Next Year in Jerusalem” always said during Pesach (Passover) at the original liberation of the Jews/Isralites

    This is another of your stupid and ill informed asides that says nothing other than about your animus to Jews under the guise of your Palestinianism;

    ……….”Mike Farmer on November 2, 2020
    ………..Silly Richard, those aren’t Jews and Jewish organisations … those are Zionists and Zionist ………..organisations, all of them with serious animus towards anyone who has the good of …………Palestinians at heart.”

    The BoD, the JC and most other Jewish organisations were established years before the rebirth of Israel. So either you agree with what I said in the first paragraph, or you admit that you were wrong and don’t know anything about anything

    But then to expect an intelligent comment or answer from you is akin to expecting blood from a stone

  62. Michael

    You dimwit

    The mural portrayed images of people that are recognisably Jewish according to the Antisemitic playbook of what Jews look like.

    The mural also talks about the financial, and malign power exhibited by a small cabal where recognisably Jewish men are over represented in relation to the size of the Jewish population, which once again is a historical Antisemitic trope

    The mural also highlights how these few men control the world by exploiting the poor blacks and other dispossessed groups and minorities by a group of men that contains recognisably Jewish men who are over represented in relation to the size of the Jewish population, which once again is a historical Antisemitic trope of malign Jewish power. It also taps into the recent fashion of blaming Jews for financing the TransAtlantic slave trade.

    You need to do a study course in Antisemitism to recognise all the obvious Antisemitic tropes you keep wandering into

    1. The mural portrayed images of :

      Rothschild

      Rockefeller

      Morgan

      Crowley

      Carnegie

      Warburg.

      Only 2 of them, a MINORITY are JEWISH.

      All are WHITE, any accusations of anti-white? Nope.

      All are MALE, any accusations of anti-male(misandry)? Nope.

      If fact, anyone looking at this mural and seeing 6 powerful money-obsessed Jews is, I suggest , guilty of antisemitism and a believer of the trope that you accuse me of.

      Now, stop being a buffoon.

  63. Michael

    You’re a dimwit

    Here is another one of your vacuous comments/statements that is broad and meaningless

    …..”Whoever taught you History filled you with rubbish.

    …….You are still unable to tell the world what was antisemitic about the mural.

    ……..You’re just a liar unable to back up your crap. Another David.2

    I made a comment about the mural on my last post.

    Now tell me what is it about history that I was taught that was rubbish?

    Why am I a Liar?

    I normally supply information to support my comments. At no time do you ever supply anything to backup your comments. Your comments are one liners with no information, and invariably carry wild accusations and allegations without any evidence. This is clearly a case of the ‘Pot calling the kettle black’. You are almost always guilty of what you accuse others of

    You need to do a study course in Antisemitism to recognise all the obvious Antisemitic tropes you keep wandering into

  64. Michael

    You Dimwit

    Did you not read, or did you not understand my post.

    I said that the Jews were disproportionately represented in relation to the Jewish percentage of the population, and that in that context it fits neatly into the Antisemitic trope of Jews and their malign influence with money and power in the world.

    You have no understanding of Antisemitism and are always either trying to deny its existence of to minimise its effects. That is why you have such trouble with the EHRC report and Corbyn even though it said unlawful actions pertaining to the disciplinary system had occurred which needed attending to by the 10-12-20

    You need to do a study course in Antisemitism to recognise all the obvious Antisemitic tropes you keep wandering into.

  65. Who knew this site would host The Pretenders Tribute Band?

    Time has not been kind to the group and the audience can be measured in single figures now but they’re bashing on regardless.

    Yesterday’s live gig from the Big Panto Tent saw front man Bellers testing some new material entitled “My Budgie swipes left.” The response was muted and our fearless warrior for imaginary justice quickly reverted to the back catalogue with 3 versions of “Shouty Yid, Shouty Yid. He’ll be your undoing”.

    Our doughty Don Quixote was supported by regular collaborator FuckMaster Michael on the Jews harp who tried hard to keep up but only really came into his own during the endless chorus repetition of “Smearzenlies”

    The set creaked to a close with a pastiche of the Take That classic “We could rule the World” set against a giant stage backdrop featuring several elderly white men with large hooked noses playing Monopoly with wads of real money. The reprise featured a long narrative piece by Michael bemoaning the pain of being misunderstood but by this time both of the audience had departed for a light supper at Blooms.

    Eds Rating 3.5 out of 10.

  66. David Collier
    @mishtal
    And here you go. Extremist Muslims in the UK – already pointing the finger at Israel for the Vienna terrorist attack..

    How absolutely vile this antisemite is.
    ________________________________

    Tweeter mentions Israel.

    Nothing about Jews.

    Neurotic much, David?

    Dishonest much, David?

    1. You can you be neurotic Michael. You can be dishonest. You can’t be both. Which is your preferred accusation?

      Also, putting ‘much’ in the wrong part of the sentence is like that cringey Dad-dancing at your niece’s wedding.

    1. What ho Bellers. So much for our agreement that picking a chap up on his typos was the mark of a complete wanker. Still, another day another Panto.

  68. I cannot be neurotic.

    I cannot be dishonest

    But then I’m not David, not Ian, not Richard, nor the poison-tongued Rabbi Mirvis …

    1. You may as well say “I cannot get dementia. I cannot get cancer” Then you wake up one morning and you have it Michael. As you’ve shown here often, you have little or no control of yourself. Remember, oathes are straw to the fire of the blood.

    2. Not a fan of Michael McIntyre Bellers?

      All that lovely warm diarrhea and a great big wibbly wobbly head. Should be right up your alley, right?

        1. Restoration poet (not Jewish Michael. Don’t panic.) circa 1703, Bellers.

          See, while you were dicking around with your chemistry set I was A starring my English Lit. That’s why I’m funnier than you.

          1. Not a very good liar are you Ian ? There was no such grade as A star in your day.

            Anyway it was obvious that you were as crap at English Lit as you were/are at chemistry when I realised you hadn’t even read ” Robert the Allotment Cat and Friends “

            1. I’m a supa-dupa brilliant liar Bellers and take great pleasure from the dozen or so times that you have willingly taken a nibble and swallowed whole. (Not you and La Domina, Michael. Relax)

              Happy to give you some tips on gags though. You’re shtick is like Michael’s view of the earth; Flat.

  70. Twits discussing grammar about a post that is actually a sarcastic mockery of their posts.

    Methinks these trolls belong to ‘Idiots Anonymous’

      1. Is that the new fangled Artificial Intelligence course for dyslexics Michael ?

        Do you think it’s clever to make fun of disabilities? Grow up Michael.

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