A few days ago, an *11500* word article was published on Medium. Titled ‘Enough is Enough: Rachel Riley, GnasherJew, and the Political Weaponisation of Antisemitism‘, it was written by ‘Shaun Lawson‘ and was quickly shared amongst many of the Corbyn hard-left support group. Everyone from Aaron Bastani to Owen Jones seems to have acknowledged it.
The article does exactly what blogs like this are supposed to do. They deflect attention from a problem. They also provide a weapon for others to do the same. This is an 11500 word article, which means nobody but someone as obsessive as myself is ever going to hold it up to genuine analysis. The ‘Corbynista’ needs to be able to answer the question about antisemitism in Labour. But he/she cannot do it honestly, so they need to be able to point to things and say, ‘look- here is the proof it is all a smear’. That is what this article is to them. It performs for the cult as a religious book does to a true believer. No critical thinking needed.
The Jewish equation
Shaun begins the article by deploying his Jewish identity. He is Jewish and his Grandmother was a Holocaust survivor. These credentials are important enough for Shaun to repeat them over and over throughout the article. But these are desperate shouts without value. Jews speak as people, not as Jews.
Surely if holding a view ‘as a Jew’ is important, then what the majority of Jews think is even more important, and Shaun is vastly outnumbered by the other Jews in the room. So why mention it? Shaun deploys his Jewishness as a minority veto. It is clearly brought to the battle as a weapon.
Why the right and not the left?
Shaun then moves on to create the landscape. He painstakingly seeks to paint the extreme right as the key enemy and asks the obvious question – why all the focus on the left? The question is ideologically naive. Why? It is absolutely true that antisemitism exists on the right. Nobody needs to be reminded how violent far-right antisemitism can be. There is however a vital difference. In UK politics, the (far-) far-right don’t have a voice. They are disenfranchised. The Tory party does not represent them and beyond the Tories are other parties and small groups of extremists – some of which have even been banned.
On the left, this is no longer the case. Far-left antisemitism is not seen as violent or dangerous, so it is more easily accepted into the mainstream view. Over the last few years, Labour have digested many of the extremist groups on the left – even some on the far-right joined Labour when Corbyn was elected. *They are inside the party*. If we seek to keep anti-Jewish racism from power, then the clear and immediate target would be fighting its growth in the Labour Party.
Even so, much of Shaun’s description of the political terrain misrepresents reality. As many have already pointed out – he downplays the level of public criticism given to those who associate with the far-right. The press do pick it up and contrary to Shaun’s distortion, they do talk about it. It seems for Shaun that no level of criticism of the right is ever enough, and criticism of the left is always wrong. From the perspective of the moderate, it remains impossible to deny that Corbyn’s election had an effect. People joined because of him (you can see some of Tapash’s antisemitic shares here). Tapash is only one of many, many examples.
Corbyn the innocent
Shaun needs to address the history of the current crisis and this is the point that his politics overtake his reason. Shaun moves on to excuse Corbyn’s presence inside the antisemitic Facebook Group Palestine Live. He suggests Corbyn was ‘likely added to this group without his consent’. Jeremy Corbyn had no less than thirty separate interactions with the Group’s founder Elleanne Green, even liking her posts about art and holidays. Whilst inside the group, Corbyn’s office arranged with Green for an event in Westminster and he only left Palestine Live *after* he had been made leader. At this point you realise Shaun is not dealing with facts. He has set out to cleanse one side and smear the other.
Shaun accepts that ‘an alarming number of posts in that group were disgustingly, revoltingly antisemitic’. That is good to know, but there is no acknowledgement from him of the number of those posts that were made by Labour Party Members. Shaun doesn’t even mention Jewish Voice for Labour, or the presence of many of their members in the group. More importantly, Shaun doesn’t acknowledge the number of these people, including the founder of the group, who joined Labour explicitly because of Corbyn:
Notice too how he distances Corbyn from the antisemitism in the group, when he says – ‘not many Facebook users scroll through a group’s entire content before posting something perfectly innocently‘. An attempt to turn the antisemitism inside the group into some random and rare event. Yet the research into the group showed that over half of the people posting actually share rabid antisemitic material, and some of Corbyn’s own comments were underneath highly problematic remarks:
Shaun, however, is not interested in any of this. He is just mentioning Palestine Live to lay the groundwork for his ten-thousand-word smearing of British Jews. What he seeks to do is convince everyone that the State of Israel, the Jewish press, the Jewish people speaking out against Corbyn and indeed 93%+ of all Jews everywhere, are actually the real antisemites.
Some of his arguments are at first glance logical. Take this one:
‘Anyone in politics who cares about this ever-protracted conflict and wants to help resolve it is bound to meet some deeply odious individuals, with whom they entirely disagree.‘
Clearly an attempt to cleanse Corbyn further by softening the damage of Corbyn’s past associations. Yet the logic always falls at the first test. Such an argument holds true if the ‘mistakes’ even themselves out, but Corbyn’s never do. In fact, he blatantly avoids meeting anyone that he personally would consider ‘odious’ (the Israelis) choosing only to meet with his ‘friends’ (the terrorists). Shaun is simply finding excuses for Corbyn.
There is no sense of introspection at all. The ‘what if I have it wrong‘ question is never raised. Shaun is ideologically blind, and anyone who gets in his way, is there to be smeared.
The smears begin – Gnasherjew & I
Having established his credentials and ‘vindicated’ Corbyn of almost all wrongdoing, Shaun can finally get to the point. After all, 80% of this article is going to be dedicated to creating his own web of conspiracy. Shaun begins, as all good conspiracies on the subject should, with the @gnasherjew Twitter account.
Gnasher (or ‘Gnash’ as I call them) is a small band of hard-working, dedicated Labour / (ex-Labour) activists who are horrified by what has happened to the party. And here we run into the first contradiction of facts. Shaun disgracefully accuses Gnasher of ‘Holocaust Denial’ of ‘doxxing’ innocent people and then he goes on to say, that I am probably one of the people behind the account.
Apparently, I have a rather disturbing ‘backstory’. I (are you sitting down), spoke at the launch event of Herut UK. But here it gets messy, as it usually does when someone is rushing to smear people without engaging in proper research. Shaun gets his facts completely wrong, wasting a few hundred words linking to, and then talking about Likud -Herut UK, (Likud UK) which is absolutely nothing to do with the non-aligned ‘Herut UK‘ group that launched.
So far he has made two accusations about me. Firstly, I am Gnasher (wrong) and secondly that I spoke at a Likud-Herut event (also wrong).
To show how absolute devoid of all understanding all this is, Shaun suggests that my choice of topic for the talk at the Herut event (Jabotinsky) was ‘curious to say the least’. To be frank, that’s balderdash. The father of Herut’s ideology was of course none other than, Ze’ev Jabotinsky.
McCarthy revisited
Having earlier denounced McCarthyist tactics, Shaun then deploys them without shame. He suggests my friends are ‘far right lunatics associated with Britain First and the English Defence League (EDL)‘. He presents two pieces of evidence for this. One is a Tony Greenstein smear special. Greenstein of course has been expelled from the party. The date of that article was 21st March which means it was clearly written to deflect attention from the awful antisemitism I discovered in Palestine Live. The other is this image below:
I am walking down a road at a demonstration (bald head, black jacket) and someone has linked me via this image to the guy in the blue jacket in the background. His name is Paul Besser. I have no interest in what Besser is or is not, this is a clear guilt-by-association smear -the very thing the hypocritical Mr Lawson had said that he hates. And there isn’t even an association. I am on the same street as him? That’s it? Look at the image.
When you see it said I have links to the EDL – that is the image the smear is born from. Like his other errors, Shaun is building his castle on non-existent sand.
Collier’s friends – Jonathan Hoffman
Having wasted 10% of the article on making up lies about me, who better to move on to than Jonathan Hoffman. Shaun explains that ‘Hoffman’s specialty is intimidating pro-Palestinian activists; even Holocaust survivors‘. Notice here the addition of the Holocaust survivor smear. It is as fake as all the others. You see the vast majority of Jewish people, including Holocaust survivors agree with Jonathan and not Shaun. Jonathan is allowed to disagree with people, even if they are Jews and yes, even if they experienced suffering at the hands of the Nazis. There will be more of this ‘Jew on Jew’ action later.
In the Hoffman section, having no more on Jonathan than his tendency to become overly vocal at meetings, Shaun returns to attacking me. This time for my ‘offensive, racist opinions’.
Collier’s non-existent racist opinions
How am I a racist? Well, according to the dimwits on the hard-left of the spectrum, it is because I don’t believe the descendants of the refugees from the 1947-1949 conflict should be held in camps. I think (and I have stated this many times), they should be given full and equal rights wherever they are. The idea that the Palestinian refugee sitting in Lebanon is one day going to ‘return’ to a city inside Israel (a land neither they nor their parents ever stepped inside) is a cruel lie.
*It* is a lie that was supported and fueled as a political weapon, with no regard at all for the victims themselves. A lie that has held people in a perpetual prison for over seventy years. It is a lie that attempts to justify the daily abuse of their human rights. There is not a serious politician on the planet that believes the full Palestinian right of return is viable. It is true ‘some’ may ‘return’ to a new Palestinian state if one is created, but that is not to Israel.
I referred to this weapon as ‘it’. Shaun, claims it makes me a racist. Now, I assume he doesn’t want these refugees to remain refugees for ever. I would hope that somewhere in the midst of his clear intention to smear everyone who has a problem with Corbyn, he has enough room left in his heart to want them to be given full human rights. At the moment, some live in an Apartheid system in Lebanon. In the very speech he quotes from I state quite clearly, that the Lebanese should stop abusing the human rights of those people born within its borders. Only in Shaun’s mind does this make me a racist and I think he would have an extremely difficult time trying to defend that libel (amongst others) in a courtroom.
Hoffman the ‘far-right’ menace
Having completely missed the mark with me, Shaun turns his attention back to Hoffman.
Shaun plays at being McCarthy again. He has a picture of Jonathan in the same street at the same time as someone who is allegedly an EDL activist. Think about this level of association. Jonathan needs to know about every single member who may be in a crowd at a demo. For failing to do this he becomes a far-right racist to be smeared. And yet on the other hand, Corbyn can stand on platforms with some of the most odious people on the planet. He can lay wreaths at ceremonies attached to horrific terror attacks and he can call radical Islamist groups his friends. Yet Corbyn is fit to be PM and Hoffman is the devil.
The antisemitism trap – victim as aggressor.
Having dealt with myself, Jonathan and Gnasher, Shaun spends another 1400 words on the ‘rather brilliant trap’ that ‘has been laid for the Labour Party’. Overstating the size of his own marginal group of asaJews (those who rely on people like Tony Greenstein for evidence), Lawson seems to believe ‘some Jews’ are using antisemitism as an excuse to be rid of Corbyn. In a display of desperation, he uses the antisemite’s favourite video (that of Shulamit Aloni), to drive home his message. As he does this, he joins Stormfront, David Duke and every other antisemite in the world who has shared that video. What is he saying now? That antisemitism doesn’t exist at all, that it is just a trick?
Shaun portrays himself and other Corbynites as the victims, suggesting everyone is doing this just ‘to silence liberal Jews’. In other words, all those people complaining about antisemitism are actually antisemites attacking Jews – but only ‘good Jews’ are allowed to be the victims. In a feat of literary brilliance, Shaun has managed to turn Corbyn’s antisemitic thugs (and let’s face it there are no shortage of them) into innocent victims and to place the blame on British Jews.
The Jewish Chronicle and Stephen Pollard
Shaun Lawson then spends the next 11% of the article attacking Stephen Pollard and the Jewish Chronicle. Pollard has probably written millions of words, and in any haystack, there are bound to be some items useful for distortion. Because that is all this is, a smear attack seeking anything that can be decontextualised and used against the author. Lawson ludicrously suggests Pollard’s opposition to Islamofascism (radical Islamists) is racist. We are back at the same type of smear he used against me. Much of the Middle East has been swimming in innocent blood for decades. The vast majority of the people living in the Middle East, would agree 100% with Pollard’s commentary.
It is absolutely absurd to suggest that those who want to see a more open, liberal society in the Middle East, or those who seek to protect ours over here, are racists. It is almost as if Lawson is suggesting that radical Islam is a racial characteristic that needs protecting. There is little more racist or dehumanising than that.
The rest of his attack on Pollard is no less weak. Pollard is the editor of a newspaper. He has annoyed a few people in his time. Big wow. NEWSFLASH. Pollard has annoyed me too at times. So what? He is there to do his job, not please me or anyone else.
Shaun Picks on the numbers lady
Lawson labours on. The next 3000 words (over 25% of the article) are dedicated to bashing people like Rachel Riley and Tracy-Ann Oberman. Lawson’s ‘beef’ with Riley begins when Riley doesn’t read an article that he sent her. He was clearly annoyed enough to mention it. In fact in the article, there are several examples of this type of response. When you do not take him seriously, Shaun Lawson gets broigus. Shaun then begins to smear Rachel via her associations. This time it is via her ‘praising’ of Sussex Friends of Israel. No need for further analysis here – the links he relies on for evidence are, as usual, devoid of all credibility.
There is a sewer that exists to discredit those like Simon Cobbs at Sussex. Most of those engaged with creating it are antisemites. Simon has been fighting Israel’s corner for years. On the streets and in the face of real hate. Finding words to be twisted, moments we became angry, images that show us walking near someone that can be used to discredit us are all Soviet Union tactics.
Shaun loves saying Jews are being antisemitic. He tries to play that trick on Rachel too. Why? Because when Riley referenced Sugar’s ‘Jewishness‘ in a tweet, she was being antisemitic. Shaun – this level of discourse is puerile. Sugar did not mention his Jewishness in that specific video (although he explicitly ruled out avoiding tax as a motive). Sugar has raised his Jewish roots and the problem of antisemitism numerous times over the last few months. If as Lawson claims ‘ hardly anyone even knows that he’s Jewish, let alone cares about it‘, then we are really in trouble. It means a sitting member of the House of Lords can complain about anti-Jewish racism and nobody even listens. That’s the logical assumption from Lawson’s words, not mine.
At this point, people are poring over ever single word in every tweet or interview that Riley has ever uttered. I wouldn’t be surprised if hard-core Corbyn activists haven’t employed code-breakers to see if one or more of the range of numbers Riley put together on Countdown cannot be twisted to imply the delivery of some dark coded message.
It is truly a disgraceful episode to watch. Rachel Riley put her head up because she fights against racism. In return she received a torrent of abuse. She objected to the torrent and received a tsunami. Anyone paying attention can see this, but Lawson is having none of it. Instead he joins in with a horde of antisemites in attempts to discredit her and twist what she has said into something that can be used against her. This is the Corbyn cult at its vulgar best. He then tries to smear Rachel again, by taking another swipe at me. This one deserves special mention.
Everyone a Jew
A few weeks ago I noticed the ‘haters’ circulating video footage taken in February 2017.
It was an interesting event. My research from that specific event showed that 40% of those at the demonstration share hard-core antisemitic material. You would think perhaps that Lawson would be more interested in asking why the Neturei Karta are standing amongst such a crowd, but no, he wants to attack me. He suggests, people should reject me because of how David Collier ‘allows his fellow Jews to be insulted and abused in public’.
Firstly, David never opens his mouth. He attends, he makes notes or records and then he writes. So the core criticism is balderdash but it is far deeper than that. Everyone in that image is Jewish. Which means this is an internal Jewish argument. Once again Lawson’s bias shines through. He seems to be saying that these fringe Jews (NK are most certainly not with the secular anti-Zionists on the left) are more important than the 93% he disagrees with. Lawson doesn’t deal with this as Jewish people arguing, he sees this as ‘bad Jews – the 93%’ abusing ‘good ones’. Just as he does in his false accusation of Holocaust Denial, Lawson denies the Jewish majority the right to disagree with the small minority. We are being antisemitic if we argue with ‘good Jews’. He is in effect employing a two-class system.
Back to Riley
Shaun shambles on, throwing even more inaccurate accusations. He suggests Riley called Chomsky an antisemite. She didn’t. Just as with everything else in the article, these accusations are poorly researched. His next trick is to blame Riley for an episode with a sixteen-year-old activist she had no part in.
The whole episode of the sixteen-year-old reeks of behind-the-scenes manipulation and if any one of these people had any real sense of duty towards her, they’d pull her away from the action. You cannot push a 16-year-old into the action and then hold up the fallout as evidence of anything. Who are these people, Hamas?
Then the clearly vindictive, spiteful Lawson writes this – ‘For her conduct, Riley should be fired from her job.’ I’m sorry but what? What a spiteful, awful man. But the whole article is one hypocritical, badly researched, rant by someone who hits out in spite.
Shaun, Smears and nothing but the smears
The article seeks to attack everyone and Lawson goes out of his way to associate everybody with antisemites. I cannot imagine he did not use a check-list for this process. Apparently most of the people listed are mentioned (like Emma Feltham) because they liked a tweet, by someone, who once posted something Lawson thinks is antisemitic. I am once again reminded of the relationship between Jeremy Corbyn and Elleanne Green. That wasn’t on Twitter (which is far more anonymous), but on Facebook. If one single like is enough for Lawson to attack these people in an article, why is he still desperate for Corbyn, a man whose sticky fingerprints are all over the accounts of antisemites, to become our PM?
Antisemitism and anti-Zionism
As Lawson draws to a close, he attempts to sound rational on the issue of antisemitism and anti-Zionism. It doesn’t work. Nothing he does works. I’ve spent years in Labour forums: either Lawson is blind or he is deluded. He understates the correlations between antisemitism and anti-Zionism and minimises the true nature of antisemitism by portraying it as little more than someone’s anger at Israel, causing them to slightly exaggerate their feelings. I don’t remember too many people at the height of their opposition to the Iraq war asking for the entire UK to burn in hell. Lawson has clearly swallowed anti-Israel propaganda whole and his rants on Israel are not intellectually supportable.
Like many far-left Zionists (are you really still a Zionist Shaun – who quotes Greenstein?), his emotional ties with Israel are a mixture of guilt and anger. He feels as if Israel is personally letting him down. It is poppycock of course, but as we have already seen, when Shaun thinks you have let him down, he holds a grudge. Shaun’s anti-Israel rants are his spiteful revenge.
Shaun attacks Riley again
Lawson clearly has a fetish for Rachel Riley, because on the subject of Zionism, he brings her up again. Lawson simply will not leave Rachel Riley alone. Yet of all the people who fight against antisemitism who also speak out on Zionism why on earth is he picking on Rachel for this? He even says ‘Riley is especially fond of educating her audience on Zionism‘. Riley hardly ever touches the subject and when she does, she can be quite critical. But ‘truth’ is of no relevance here. Lawson is trying to smear everyone who has annoyed him, with as much baggage as possible.
And his conclusion
Mercifully for us, Lawson’s conclusion is only as long as an average blog should be (1300 words). I use it just to make sure I have covered all his central points. 75% of his conclusion gives away his motives. It is all about how bad the world is, how bad our government is and how good a true socialist government could be. The final quarter is just to accuse Jews of weaponising antisemitism. Of a calculated smear designed to unseat Corbyn. And he ends as all leftist fools end, by talking about the threat of right-wing antisemitism, totally oblivious to the hard-core antisemitism of the left that swims alongside him. Take a look at this tweet from a couple of days ago:
This is the level of Corbyn’s thugs and their vindictive nature. These people are looking at my family. Once the British Jews have been firmly disenfranchised (we are just working for a foreign power), we then become legitimate targets for this level of abuse. I mean, this isn’t even hidden. This is just a signal. An act of intimidation. Which articles such as Shaun’s enable and empower.
In the end it we all need to put Shaun’s ‘hornswoggling boondoggle’ (H/T Susie Dent) to one side and ask a series of simple questions.
Do the antisemites in the Labour Party exist? And the answer is yes they do. Far more than Corbyn’s cultists are willing to admit.
So question two – have the Labour Party dealt with them? The answer is that they most certainly have not.
Which leave one final question. Why not? And it is the answer to that question that Shaun Lawson wrote 11500 words deflecting attention from. It doesn’t matter that there isn’t an ounce of value or honesty in any of it. It wasn’t written to do anything but change the subject.
Upcoming blogs
I recently purchased Nur Masalha’s latest book ‘Palestine – a Four Thousand Year History’. The book is yet another brick in the wall of absolute balderdash currently being constructed under the umbrella of modern academia. It butchers history, draws impossible connections and is plugged by an inner circle of academic revisionist activists who all engage in the same industry. I am working my way through it now and will review it when completed.
In March 2018 I published the Palestine Live report. It mainly focused on antisemitism within the UK context. However, the secret group had a global reach and many members from the United States were highly active in the group. By spotlighting them, it is possible not only to draw attention to the antisemitic swamp that key activists in prominent ‘peace groups’ operate inside, but also to point out the comfort with which they they mingle with far-right extremists. The report draws from the 10000s of screenshots taken during the original research and has involved building a cross-Atlantic partnership to identify key activists.
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Great article.
Just a note for the painting on the cover of the book for the ‘4.000 Palestinian History’.
It is so much … Palestinian, that is actually Greek.
It says in medieval Greek ‘Holy City Jerusalem’.
I’m Greek and I can read them.
Then, there are some letters, parts of words that cannot be understood properly.
But the first one is ‘njamin’ as from ‘Benjamin’, the Jewish name.
The last set of letters, in the last row, are the final letters of what it seems to be ‘Lucas’ from the Jewish (I think) name Lucas, the Apostle, another Jewish name.
So much, I think, with the Palestinian history. The writer uses Greek paintings and Jewish names for its cover.
thanks so much for this
My pleasure, sir.
I have to tell you that me and certain people in Greece (not so so many to be truthful, just a few) we have been reading your blog and we really appreciate it, what you are doing to tackle all this ugly antisemitism. We have our own battles in Greece, and we have learnt a lot from you.
So, a ‘thanks’ was necessary.
And by the way, I cannot understand why Mr Shaun Lawson blocked me on Twitter, my ‘Protocols without Zion’ account of my team’s blog.
Let it be. This is what these people always do. Block instead of engage with facts and reason. We now know it.
Thank you for everything, sir!
Its a section of the Madaba map (there’s a Wiki entry for it), specifically the part that shows Jerusalem. There’s a reproduction of this part in the covered section of the Cardo in the Old City.
Thank you for this. I didn’t know it, of course. I will study the map, it is very interesting, but just with a quick read, I can tell that my guess with ‘Lucas’ was wrong but I can read perfectly another Jewish name, ‘Judas’. The whole map is written in Greek, of course, as Wikipedia says «All landscape units are labelled with explanations in Greek».
Thank you.
… and?
I did warn David that his nut job associations would be the metaphorical death of him. It ill behoves him to now ask for whom the bell tolls
Somewhere a Cuckoo Clock is missing its Cuckoo.
I guess it is time to write David’s metaphorical epitaph. It has been hard work but I am sure he will like it.
” Here lies David who was alive and now is dead “
you are so funny Stephen. You seriously believe that anyone outside of this little nutjob bubble they exist in actually buy into this nonsense. A picture of me walking down a street, footage of me silently watching a couple of Jews argue with the NK. Once you accept those type of smears, nothing else they can say will ever be seen as carrying weight. They over-smear themselves out of all legitimate discussion.
David you exist in the self same nut job bubble
That as may be Stephen, but then I am not suggesting the ‘end is nigh’.
nigh is relative
Was your arse sore here after David thoroughly kicked it?
Here for the likes of Shaun Lawson and other Corbynites, is a 30 second Youtube of a newsreel documenting a meeting between Socialist hitler and the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem.
This video is clearer than the dark still from the newsreel that many have seen before.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIovLAJ6D9M
Anyone able to translate the spoken German narration to English????????????
There must be someone that cares enough to try
https://onthedarkside410122300.wordpress.com/2019/01/15/shaun-lawson-on-campaigners-against-antisemitism-shaun-of-all-truth/
‘That is why we protested when anti-Israel organisations revoltingly paraded Mayer on Holocaust Memorial Day in 2010, in the House of Commons – chaired by Corbyn. And Lawson’s limp-wristed condemnation of me for doing so proves conclusively (if proof were needed) that as far as antisemitism in Labour is concerned, he is unequivocally part of the problem.’
Campaigning against antisemitism WHEN/WHERE it exists is all very well but supporting a regime that has recently enshrined racism into its Basic Laws seems a tad hypocritical, Jonathan.
“(if proof were needed)”.
It’s never been required for David to smear.
Lest we forget
https://hoffmanchronicled.wordpress.com/the-zionist-federationedl-alliance/
Jonathan, your self-exculpatory apologia is at variance with the independent testimony of Amanda Sebesteyn and Yael Kahn, both of whom attended the Holocaust Memorial Day, ‘Never Again – For Anyone’ meeting, and witnessed at first hand your abusive and intimidatory behaviour towards Dr Hajo Meyer.
Yael Kahn’s account, which is reproduced at length below, corroborates Lawson’s charges against Hoffman, and demonstrates the obscenity of his conduct towards a Holocaust survivor:
“I was fortunate to attend the packed meeting on “Never Again: For Anyone” at Parliament in Portcullis House on 27 Jan 10, on Holocaust Memorial Day. This was one of the best meetings I have ever attended in nearly 40 years of being an activist. I was inspired by the courage and resolve of 85 year old Holocaust survivor, Dr Hajo Meyer.
This event was by no means the only one on Holocaust Memorial Day, yet it attracted Zionist lead figures, among them: Louise Ellman MP [Vice Chair of Labour Friends of Israel], Jerry Lewis [Vice President, Board of Deputies] and Jonathan Hoffman [Co-Vice Chair of the Zionist Federation]. Even Christian Friends of Israel came to the event organised by IJAN
[International Jewish Anti-Zionist Network]. The presence of these Zionists was a confirmation of the significance they attributed to this event.
. . . The conduct of many of the Zionists in attendance showed their purpose was not to learn from it, especially not from Holocaust survivor, Dr Meyer. Was it fear from his words that drew them into the Boothroyd Room?
Most of the Zionists clearly came to silence the Holocaust survivor, Dr Meyer. As soon as he started talking they shouted at him. The first to shout was Jonathan Hoffman. He was also the first to be escorted out by police. This was after Hoffman’s repeated shouting at the 85 year old Holocaust survivor, preventing Meyer from giving his talk. The police gave him a number of warnings. The two MPs who chaired the meeting were eventually forced to ask for his removal.
Similarly, a bearded Zionist [Martin Sugarman] man repeatedly shouted at the 85 year old Holocaust survivor. When eventually he was escorted out by police, his conduct was most shocking. He [Sugarman] stunned us when he made the Nazi salute and shouted the Nazi obscenity, “sieg heil”. We could only speculate on his motives.
A couple more Zionists were eventually escorted out by police, before Dr Meyer was able to complete his talk. There were other Zionists who also joined in the shameful and disruptive conduct of shouting at the speaker.
They tried to silence the Holocaust survivor from speaking about his memories and lessons from the Holocaust. Even when Dr Meyer was talking about the extremely painful period of his life, under the anti-Semitism in Nazi Germany and Auschwitz the shouting of obscenities at him did not stop. Some of the shameful attacks were when Dr Meyer spoke positively about Judaism.
I have never witnessed such contempt and disrespect to a Holocaust survivor. It is inconceivable that such conduct would have not been labelled anti-Semitic by the same people who were doing the attacking, had Dr Meyer not been anti-Zionist.
It was a personal reminder of an attack on my father, who, like Dr Meyer, grew up in Nazi Germany. My father, Michael Kahn, escaped Nazi Germany in 1937. In 1988 my father joined us at a weekly protest at Dizengoff Circle [in Tel Aviv] against Israeli attacks on Palestinians. He was singled out by Zionist Israelis, who told him in Hebrew: “shame the Nazis didn’t finish you
off”.
The hateful remarks and lack of compassion for the Holocaust survivor, Dr Meyer, by the Zionists was compounded with their lack of interest in the Holocaust itself!”
Yael Kahn, “Zionist thugs interupt talk”
https://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2010/02/445742.html?c=on#c242258
Josh Robinson, Easy question for you. How many Jews from the “International Jewish Anti-Zionist Network” live in Gaza?
How many synagogues, markets, schools/Yeshivas operated by the IJAZN are in Gaza?
If Hamass is only Anti-Zionist then the Jews from the IJAZN would be living there to demonstrate Hamass’ tolerance of Infidel/Dhimmi Jews.
Hmmmmmmmmmm?
Jonathan, your self-exculpatory apologia is at variance with the independent testimony of Amanda Sebesteyn and Yael Kahn, both of whom attended the Holocaust Memorial Day, ‘Never Again – For Anyone’ meeting, and witnessed at first hand your abusive and intimidatory behaviour towards Dr Hajo Meyer.
Yael Kahn’s account, which is reproduced at length below, corroborates Lawson’s charges against Hoffman, and demonstrate the obscenity of his conduct towards a Holocaust survivor:
“I was fortunate to attend the packed meeting on “Never Again: For Anyone” at
Parliament in Portcullis House on 27 Jan 10, on Holocaust Memorial Day. This
was one of the best meetings I have ever attended in nearly 40 years of
being an activist. I was inspired by the courage and resolve of 85 year old
Holocaust survivor, Dr Hajo Meyer.
This event was by no means the only one on Holocaust Memorial Day, yet it
attracted Zionist lead figures, among them: Louise Ellman MP [Vice Chair of
Labour Friends of Israel], Jerry Lewis [Vice President, Board of Deputies]
and Jonathan Hoffman [Co-Vice Chair of the Zionist Federation]. Even
Christian Friends of Israel came to the event organised by IJAN
[International Jewish Anti-Zionist Network]. The presence of these Zionists
was a confirmation of the significance they attributed to this event.
. . . The conduct of many of the Zionists in attendance showed their purpose was
not to learn from it, especially not from Holocaust survivor, Dr Meyer. Was
it fear from his words that drew them into the Boothroyd Room?
Most of the Zionists clearly came to silence the Holocaust survivor, Dr
Meyer. As soon as he started talking they shouted at him. The first to shout
was Jonathan Hoffman. He was also the first to be escorted out by police.
This was after Hoffman’s repeated shouting at the 85 year old Holocaust
survivor, preventing Meyer from giving his talk. The police gave him a
number of warnings. The two MPs who chaired the meeting were eventually
forced to ask for his removal.
Similarly, a bearded Zionist [Martin Sugarman} man repeatedly shouted at the 85 year old Holocaust survivor. When eventually he was escorted out by police, his
conduct was most shocking. He [Sugarman] stunned us when he made the Nazi salute and shouted the Nazi obscenity, “sieg heil”. We could only speculate on his
motives.
A couple more Zionists were eventually escorted out by police, before Dr Meyer was able to complete his talk. There were other Zionists who also joined in the shameful and disruptive conduct of shouting at the speaker.
They tried to silence the Holocaust survivor from speaking about his
memories and lessons from the Holocaust. Even when Dr Meyer was talking
about the extremely painful period of his life, under the anti-Semitism in
Nazi Germany and Auschwitz the shouting of obscenities at him did not
stop. Some of the shameful attacks were when Dr Meyer spoke positively about
Judaism.
I have never witnessed such contempt and disrespect to a Holocaust survivor.
It is inconceivable that such conduct would have not been labelled anti-Semitic by the same people who were doing the attacking, had Dr Meyer not been anti-Zionist.
It was a personal reminder of an attack on my father, who, like Dr Meyer,
grew up in Nazi Germany. My father, Michael Kahn, escaped Nazi Germany in
1937. In 1988 my father joined us at a weekly protest at Dizengoff Circle
[in Tel Aviv] against Israeli attacks on Palestinians. He was singled out by
Zionist Israelis, who told him in Hebrew: “shame the Nazis didn’t finish you
off”.
The hateful remarks and lack of compassion for the Holocaust survivor, Dr
Meyer, by the Zionists was compounded with their lack of interest in the
Holocaust itself!”
Yael Kahn, “Zionist thugs interupt talk”
https://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2010/02/445742.html?c=on#c242258
Amanda Sebestyen’s account of the meeting at which Jonathan Hoffman abused and intimidated Dr Hajo Meyer:
“On the evening of Holocaust Memorial Day, ‘Never Again – For Anyone’ took place at Portcullis House in Parliament, the climax of a tour organised by the International Jewish Anti-Zionist Network and the Scottish Palestine Solidarity Campaign. The explicit aim was to spend the evening remembering, learning from but never ‘exceptionalising’ or sacralising the Nazi Genocide. The understanding of the organisers was also framed by Hannah Arendt’s insight that the concentration camps were the return to Europe of Europe’s crimes against people worldwide.
. . . ‘Never Again — For Anyone’ was structured as an open reminder of all genocides: somewhere Native Americans could speak with the Roma facing murder today, and survivors and resisters from the Irish Famine, Rwanda and the colossal genocide of slavery could share their stories without being told arrogantly that Jewish suffering was ‘unequalled’ and ‘beyond telling’.
However, a tiny group of Zionist fanatics invaded the gathering and shouted so continuously that the careful programme was derailed, though not prevented from happening. This was a total destruction of the democratic space for over an hour – something I’ve never seen before in any Parliamentary meeting. It was sickening to hear the hounding of 85 year-old Dr Meyer, and the bellows of ‘boring!’ every time any survivor of a different genocide tried to tell their experience. For any readers of ‘Good-Bye to Berlin’, stormtrooper analogies were hard to avoid.
. . . Bizarrely, the stormtrooper-faction also apparently had some Zionist legitimacy. At first sight in the lobby of Portcullis House they resembled grizzled veterans of some embalmed Trotskyist groupuscule, but a friendly offer to read their pamphlet was greeted with a glare and the somewhat unusual response: ‘We only give our papers to neutrals. You’re an enemy’. The group’s horrifying behaviour in the meeting reminded Bangladeshi speaker Ansar Ahmed Ullah of the jihadi thugs who break up secularist meetings in Brick Lane, and reminded the Italian Romani woman speaker [who had to remain anonymous because of danger at home] of the Italian Forza Nuova fascist MPs who invade their Parliament every time Roma human rights abuses are being reported. Apparently shouter-in-chief Jonathan Hoffman – eventually escorted out by a policeman and wearing the blissful smile of a bomber achieving a death penalty – actually boasts the status of Vice-Chair of the Zionist Federation. His campaign of intimidation certainly gives a glimpse into the core politics of that organisation”.
Amanda Sebestyen, “Zionists Outraged as Holocaust Memorial Day Recognises Other Genocides”
http://londonprogressivejournal.com/article/634/zionists-outraged-as-holocaust-memorial-day-recognises-other-genocides
This is module 3.1 in Social Media Activist Class; “The Fatima Filibuster” where the contributor stuffs the thread with massive copy/pastes of turgid content to distract and deflect from the point. Nice touch doing the double paste here.
The glorious mesdames Rachel Riley and Susie Dent have confirmed that “self-exculpatory apologia” are real words, if a little pompous.
Ian, I appreciate that you have a rather short attention span, but Kahn and Sebestyen’s testimony is very much to the point as it directly refutes David’s assertion that the “Holocaust survivor smear” is “as fake as all the others.”
Josh. Any idea why someone using your IP posted an message here containing high levels of anti-Muslim hate? Clearly it was posted to taint this site with accusations of anti-Muslim racism. I didn’t let it through. Any reason why the post has the same IP address as you do?
Perhaps Edward is Josh. He’s the one who you allow to post anti-Muslim hate. Split personality and all that, David.
Attacking the myth of Palestinian revisionist history isn’t ‘anti-Muslim hate’ Mike. As you know I don’t really moderate here but if I was to see something truly objectionable I’d pull the person up on it. If you do see anything you feel really uncomfortable with – let me know and I’ll take a real look at it. The comment in question was held in a queue because the site is set to hold any ‘first time’ posters. It seems Josh used a false name and email, so it was held. It was a truly disgusting remark and there is no way I would want that anywhere on my site. It seems he tried to set me up.
David, it wasn’t you that pulled up Edward over his many references to ‘Palestwinians’ … that was tolerated for quite a while. You still allow his racial goading yet use the word ‘hate’ when smearing others.
Mike. What part of ‘I don’t really look at or moderate the comments’ do you not understand? As for my own levels of tolerance, I have even tolerated Holocaust denial here. In the interests of research and discussion I am far more lenient to those that hate Jews, than I am of any other type of racism. I despise all racism. Everyone knows it, I am often criticised for my leniency towards antisemitism here, and I seriously have no intention of playing this game with you. If you see something you don’t like – bring it to my attention.
“Mike Farmer”,
when Muslims refer to
“the sons of pigs and apes”
“pigs and dogs”
“Mike Farmer” and stones,
who are they referring to???????????
David, let me state categorically that the comments to which you refer were not posted by me, nor any members of my own family. The IP address which was logged on your system yesterday is not my IP address; that is to say, the fixed IP address which is assigned by the ISP to which I am registered in this country. For reasons of security, I use the TOR browser to access the internet. Users of TOR have no control over which nodes their connection is routed, nor which IP address is assigned for any given browser session. Indeed, if my browser has been configured correctly, then you should see that this comment has been posted from a different IP address to that which was logged yesterday.
In the case of the comments which were posted yesterday, I can only surmise that the individual who posted those comments was connected to the same TOR circuit. (The analogy would be that of multiple users connecting to the same public access WiFi point). It would appear that what occurred yesterday was nothing more than a coincidence, albeit one which is exceptionally rare.
I have handed it to my faithful IT guru to see what he makes of your comment. I can say, without needing to be an expert, that the odds of the ‘coincidence’ seem somewhat astronomical. I am hardly google or Facebook. You are suggesting that two people interested in my niche, tiny corner of the universe, blogs have both landed here using the same proxy that at different times assigned you with identical IPs. Not once, but twice (I haven’t raised the other issue yet). If I was a gambling man, I’d rather buy a lotto ticket I think.
Josh ?
“I didn’t let it through”
So there’s no evidence he made that comment other than “It wuz ‘im wot dunn it” I also note you led with that information instead of refuting the points of the comment.
Give it up David, you’re fooling nobody.
So here’s to you
Josh Robinson
David knows more about you than you know
Whoa, Whoa, Whoa….
Happy Nakba!
And even the bestest most wonderfulest gatekeeper in the entire history of the world was able to halt the slide
He was ” elected ” vice chair because and the other vice chair were the only candidates. Following the brilliant work of me , Iris and Richard here….
https://hoffmanchronicled.wordpress.com/
….. the ZF made sure they didn’t make that mistake again.
Scoffie went into such a sob they said yeah ok you can be in charge of ” advocacy”.
That hasn’t been heard of since
Josh Robinson,
THIS is the handiwork of your heroes.
– 9/11 and now necessity to X-Ray all luggage/cargo and scan/interview all passengers
– 1993 truck bombing of the World Trade Center
– 1968 assassination of US Senator Robert F. Kennedy
– 1988 bombing of Pan Am 103
– 2005 July 7th London transport massacre
– beheading of Lee Rigby, journalist Daniel Pearl and other victims of ISIS
– Boston Marathon bombing
– London and Westminster bridge car ramming attacks
– Bastille Day truck ramming attack in Nice France
– massacre at Charlie Hebdo magazine offices in Paris
– massacre at Bataclan music venue
– massacre at Manchester music venue
– massacre at Pulse nightclub in Orlando
– massacre at Christmas party in San Bernardino
– stabbing to death of filmmaker Theo Van Gogh
– Fascist Irans death threats against writer Salman Rushdie
– 500,000 dead in Syria (Arabs killing Arabs)
– 1,000,000 dead in 8 year Iraq/Fascist Iran war (Muslims killing Muslims)
– Mumbai India massacre
– Nairobi Kenya mall massacre
– Sadaam Husseins poison gassing of the Kurds of Halabja Iraq
– ISIS beheading videos
– Hamass executing gays by pushing them off rooftops in Gaza
– Fascist Iran executing gays by hanging them from construction cranes
– Coptic Christians being murdered in Egypt
– murder of tourists in Luxor
– Manhattan bike path car ramming attack
– thwarted sneaker and later underwear bombing of an inflight plane
– failed SUV bombing of Times Square
– public threats on placards of 9/11 scale attacks on the UK and Europe
– Brussels airport bombing
– bombing of USS Cole
– Fort Hood Texas massacre
– foiled attack on Garland Texas conference
– death threats on creators of South Park cartoon series
– Brooklyn Bridge shooting
– Empire State Building Observation Deck shooting
– Fascist Irans calls for Death to America
– Taliban shooting girls who want an education
– Muslim families stoning their daughters to death over “family honour”
– DC Beltway sniper
– Boko Haram kidnapping and raping girls in Nigeria
– ISIS murdering Egyptian soldiers in the Sinai
– ISIS burning Jordanian pilot to death
– Taliban destroying two 1,500 year old Buddahs in Bamiyan Afghanistan
– ISIS destroying antiquities in Palmyra
– Hezbola and Hamass using children as Human Shields
– Christmas market shooting in Strasbourg France
– Armenian Genocide by the Turks
– 1/15/19 Shabab terrorist attack in Nairobi Kenya
And that’s just the Tip of the Iceberg, Josh
What amazes me is David choosing the twin peaks of Scoffie and Simple Simon as the hill to die on
Peak 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBH6XONDpes
Peak 2
https://youtu.be/_irmCd_nI9A
You’ve really given up on this now Bellers haven’t you. Half hearted copy/pastes and lazy recycles of the 2017 repertoire. It’s like watching Pablo Zabaleta trying to get up and down the pitch with his creaky old legs. Even the put downs lack conviction. Come on lad. Make like the techies at Uncle Leopolds Belsen bodega and turn up the gas.
You’ve really given up on this now Bellers haven’t you.
More or less. Its done.