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Nakba – a Twitter tale of 7 million distortions

Today on Twitter is Nakba Day. It is commemorated on 15th May, the day following Israel’s independence. As bad as the distortion and ignorance surrounding the conflict may be on any normal day, the nakba anniversary always takes it to a whole new level of insane.

The true story behind the Nakba is a simple one. The UN partitioned the land between a Jewish state and an Arab state. The Arabs refused to accept it. Civil conflict broke out and this turned into a regional war. The Arab side lost and paid a price for their aggression. Rather than accept this, they have spent the last 72 years making it continually worse for themselves.

On social media – we are presented with a completely different tale. An insidious, antisemitic demonisation of Jews and a total distortion of history. As I am battling away today, I thought I would provide a few examples.

Nakba as a Jewish virus

These online campaigns are organised and sometimes state driven. As early as last night #covid48 started trending:nakba as a jewish virus

Covid is of course another name of the current Coronavirus. 1948 is the birthdate of Israel. This Twitter trend is in tune with some of the oldest and most deadly antisemitic tropes. Over the past 24 hours, there have been 100,000s of tweets calling Jews a virus. It is difficult to believe Twitter would accommodate a global racist trend such as this against any other minority group. Antisemitism is and has always been more socially accepted than other forms of hate. ‘Jews as virus’ trending in the UK. How sickening.

Nakba number lies

One of the key reasons I know anti-Zionism is just the latest version of antisemitism, is because of the ignorance behind it all. The tale they weave is not a perspective of an historical fact nor a slight bias in favour of their own side. It is a total fictional narrative. A place where the enemy is so demonised, so over-stated and the story so ridiculous – that they are discussion the devil or the bogey man – not actual historical events. This is full on anti-Jewish racism. Look at this one:

Nakba 1

The tweet refers to a mass expulsion of 7 million Palestinians. Two things here. Firstly, there was no mass expulsion at all. It didn’t happen that way. History records that some localised hostile areas were cleansed by a Jewish force that had neither the time nor manpower to concern itself with anything other than its own survival, against an Arab force that wanted to annihilate it. But these incidents were not the main story, they were a side show and a strategic neccessity. For the most part, the Arabs voluntarily fled or stayed. Those that stayed are Israeli Arabs today. This has been turned on its head – and Arab propaganda pretends that the Jews had a plan to expel ALL the Arabs from the start. Absolute hogwash.

But notice too, the ‘7 million figure’. This is a direct attack on the Holocaust narrative. The Nakba – a war they chose and lost – has to be bigger than the Holocaust, the systematic genocide of European Jewry. The Holocaust had six million – therefore the Nakba had seven.

Nakba invasions

Another tell-tale sign of ignorance is in the description of events. This was about a division of land between the Jews and the Arabs.  Look at this tweet:

nakba delusions

This ‘invasion’ narrative is a constant theme in anti-Israel activism. I saw it in the story I was told at the Banksy hotel museum. I have seen it told at numerous universities and I have seen propaganda movies of the 1948 war that show Israeli tanks coming from the outside – a total inversion of the truth. This tweet relies on that false story. ‘Israeli militias stormed the beaches of Palestine’. An image created of a Jewish D-Day when the invading forces tried to capture the beachheads. This simply isn’t real. Whatever is driving these people to spend all their day on Twitter – it isn’t history – it is hate. A hatred and demonisation of the Jews. Antisemitism.

Nakba trends

For much of the day, along with #Covid48, other Nakba hashtags have been trending. Such as #Nakba72 and #NakbaDay

The next example is another growing trend in the propaganda story. For years, anti-Israel activists have used images from the Holocaust and misrepresented them as being from the civil conflict in 1948. Then they started to equate the events, the Jews suffered the Holocaust, the Palestinians the Nakba. The latest part of that trend is to deal with denial. Because Holocaust denial is such a horrific, racist thing, if we question their totally false Nakba narrative, then we must be horrific racists too:
What manner of grotesque fairytale is this, that a denial of events during WW2 should be equated with the denial of a falsehood.
Most of the countless tweets are simply regurgitations of a historically fraudulent tale about a fairytale people of ‘beauty and kindness’, set upon by beasts of terror. An injustice that must be corrected for peace to reign on earth.
nakba fairytale
Massacres that never happened, villages that were no more than a couple of tents, Arab civilians who were actually armed militia, a mighty Zionist force that was in reality a tiny and scared Jewish population and a plan of ethnic cleansing that simply did not exist. Mix all these up together and you can present your very own Nakba tale. A fable that has lasted 72 years and has resulted in European governments enticing and actually funding the welfare of Arabs who seek to kill Jews.

Nakba plots and keys

As with all mythology, symbolism takes on a life of its own. Our ‘Asa’, the mumbling incoherent mess that appeared on Miko Peled’s Zoom event the other night, obviously used to own some type of cupboard – he is holding up his key. Mustafa on the other hand, clearly owned a giant’s castle.

Nakba keys

There are no limits to the lies they can tell, nor it seems is there a limit to the number of people willing to spread them. On days such as this – antisemitic hatred is the only circus in town.

 

 

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105 thoughts on “Nakba – a Twitter tale of 7 million distortions”

  1. There are SIX MILLION REASONS why people hate Zionists.
    One being a false sense of entitlement having a relation, no matter how distant, to a survivor of the 1933-45 German regime.

    1. Brucie babes

      You’re at it again

      Trying to equate the mass murders of six million Jews to the results of a civil war that the Jews won for the first time in nearly two thousand years

      The leader of the Arab league was purported to have said in 1946/7 that the Jews were going to suffer a second Holocaust when the Arabs defeated them

      Thank G-d Jews are able to celebrate Independence Day

      I suppose we could even celebrate nakhba day as the victory of the Jews over those that would have killed/murdered them

      1. As I’ve said, if I had a time machine to take me back to 1946/7, you’d be begging to be returned to Germany.

        1. Bruce Moooooooooohammed,

          You’re begging for ETERNAL Nakba, and that’s just what you and your fiends deserve.

          Happy 75th anniversary of VE day!

        2. Bruce Moooooooooohammed wrote …

          > As I’ve said, if I had a time machine to take me back to 1946/7, you’d be begging to be returned to Germany.

          What drugs are you on?

          How’s far along is your time machine?

          Did Arabs invent your time machine?

      2. “was purported to have said “.

        Just about your level, Richard. Rumour mongering …. just like Collier with his ‘no Jews left’ crap.

    2. That’s the Nazi-loving Brutes we’ve come to know and, um, laugh at. You’re a bad joke and if I had even 0.0001% of a gram of regard for you, I’d feel pity over what a loser you are. But I don’t.

        1. First off, the word “irk” is one of a very long list of words you don’t seem to understand. To be irked is to feel irritation and maybe anger, and my use of the words “laugh at” should make it clear even to someone who is a complete imbecile (and you qualify here, Muck) that Brutes is a gloriously ugly wannabe comic troll. Second, I wasn’t talking to you before, so please sod right off.

  2. “The UN partitioned the land”.

    Actually, UNGA resolution 181 proposed a partition.
    They knew the UNGA had no authority to create a partition.

  3. Happy Nakba to ALL!

    As to what “The Nakba” is supposed to be…

    it’s a neologism to describe the 1948 FAILURE of 5+ attacking Arab armies/legions (Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Lebanon, TransJordan and others)

    NONE of which was an army of an existing “pal-e-stine”,

    to defeat the outnumbered and outgunned Israel and literally continue the Holocaust.

    #KORANAVIRUS2020

    P.S. Happy 75th anniversary of the UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER of SHlTler’s Turd Reich to the US, UK and SU.

    P.P.S. Happy 75th anniversary of SHlTler’s first marriage to a female. Adolf and Eva are Honeymooning in HELL.

    1. One of your Israeli leaders, Itzhak Shamir wanted to work with your “SHITler” to attack those that were fighting the Nazis, while fellow Jews were dying in the camps.

      Nice.

      1. Former Prime Minister Shamir, eh Michael. That reminds me of another former Israeli PM and Nobel Prize winner, Menachem Begin. You normally cite him in your slogans but have omitted so to do today. You recall that the Egyptian, Yasser Arafat also won the award and you were going to tell us whether you think that they were both worthy recipients. Have you decided yet?

        1. I refer you to my previous answer, Ian.

          p.s. yes, Begin and Shamir, terrorists installed as leaders of Israel which now sees terrorism as a naughty thing ….conveniently.

          1. You haven’t answered yet Michael. Do you think Begin and Arafat were both worthy recipients of the Nobel Peace Prize?

              1. Michael, I told you I was happy to play along with your silliness for as long as you choose.

                So again, you haven’t answered yet Michael. Do you think Begin and Arafat were both worthy recipients of the Nobel Peace Prize?

                Ready to reply?

  5. Brucie babes

    What a meaningless statement

    ‘if you had a time machine ‘ you say things would be different.

    The only thing that you seem to be implying is that you would have destroyed the Jews of Mandatory Palestine (I assume by massacre and ethnic cleansing of the Jewish population).

    As the saying goes, ‘hindsight is a perfect science’.

    But the truth is, the Jews triumphed against all the odds and Israel was resurrected.

    So please continue with your racially bigoted Antisemitic rants as confirmation of your bias

    1. Hey Dick
      Antisemitic?
      Some of my best mates are Jews.
      I don’t have an antisemitic bone in my body.
      There’s Jewish blood in me, so how can I be antisemitic?
      Answer me that.
      Dick.

      1. Bruce Moooooooooohammed,

        You are as Jewish as a Ham Sandwich.

        Happy Nakba!

        Happy 75th anniversary of VE day!

              1. It proves you’re confused. You don’t know who you are.

                Happy Nakba and Happy 75th anniversary of VE Day!

              2. …. that others notice he doesn’t fight antisemitism …. only Labour?

  6. It is just as inaccurate history to discuss Palestine and Palestinians in this context. Even leaivn aside the root of Palestine is the Latin for Philistine, this terminology was unheard of priot to 1967. Also, the term al-Nakhba orignially referred to the failure of the invading Arab armies, not to the so called exile of Arabs. In fact, it is correct to state that most Arabs that fled did so frightened by their own propaganda, and believing that invading Arab armies would kill the Jewish Men, leaving their womenfolk to be raped and childrent to be drowned.

    Similarly, it’s worth recalling that Arab armies often treated Israel’s Arabs very poorly, so much so that many begged the Jews not to leave.

    It’s a bit wearying to have to persistenty correct this blog. In particular, the only way to promote better understanding is by teaching history and religious histroy properly. This blog is not alone in not doing so.

    1. “so called exile of Arabs”? Didn’t happen then? No ethnic cleansing?

      What then about the “so called” expulsion of Jews from Arab lands?

      1. Mike
        There is more than ample evidence of the 800,000 Jews forced to leave the Arab lands. The records will show the remaining number are no more than double figures in Iran, IraQ, Syria, Egypt. The number of Arabs living in Israel is in the multiple thousands

    2. Deir Yassin was attacked by Jewish terrorists April 9 1948 BEFORE the Arabs came, Just correcting you.

      p.s. the purpose of David’s blog is not to present truth but to smear and mislead for the benefit, not of Jews, but of Israel.

      1. Do you want the list of villages attacked by Palestinian terrorists BEFORE independence of Israel

        1. If it is accompanied by a list of Jewish terrorist attacks, feel free, Ramon.

    3. Inaccurate to discuss Palestine and Palestinians in what context John? What terminology exactly was unheard of prior to 1967? And I would love to know, given the attitude, which specific comment in the blog you feel you have corrected.

      edited to add:

      I have also searched through your previous submissions here. There have been 8. Half not directed at me, and none have tried to ‘correct’ anything, so I am unsure just what you are tiring of.

      1. If John has not tried to ‘correct’ anything in your blogs then he has as little respect for the truth as yourself, David.

        Presumably a Zionist.

  7. If Andreas Baader & Ulrike Meinhof had had the internet do you think they have been Michael and Mick (doing his Bruce Levy routine); writing tepid comments on social media or would they still have bombed, kidnapped and murdered for their causes?

    Would Dáithí Ó Conaill have hidden behind his keyboard and written “It’s the taking part that counts” or would he be loading up on knock off Czech munitions to fight the good fight.

    Today’s activists are such wimps.

  8. David tweets “How many Jews would have been saved in WW2 if Israel existed EARLIER – and the Jews – who had nowhere to run to – had a national home?”

    ….. and how many lives would have been saved had Zionists not fought to establish their racist state in Palestine?

          1. That last post wins the Lack of Self-Awareness award for the Internet today, besting some Facebook morons and about 40 million Twitter posters. It’s the broken sewer system of Online World, and today (along with many other days), Muck Framer’s its one-eyed king.

  9. Brucie babes

    Your Antisemitic racist bigotry is, and has been apparent, in your comments on this blog.

    Your mockery of the Jews who died in the Holocaust

    Your attempts at playing around with the Blood Libel that has been responsible for the pogroms and murders of Jews for over a thousand years.

    In my opinion you fit the description of an Antisemetic racist bigot, whether your claim to be Jewish is real or not.
    Don’t forget Himmler claimed that some of his best friends were Jews

    1. Richard, seems that you haven’t noticed Edward’s AntiArab racist bigotry mocking those Arabs who lost their homes, were raped and murdered in their Nakba.

      Read his posts and comment please. Show us your righteousness.

      No way here am I comparing the scale of murder here with the Holocaust where 17 million of all origins were murdered but each death and rape is a tragedy.

      1. Sharmuta, Projecting Arab/Muslim barbarity on Jews?

        Rotherham rape gangs.

        BTW, who raped YOU Sharmuta?

    1. You mean a man who said if a point was important it was okay to lie about it. That man?

      1. Nothing true in that book then?

        You’re the last person to accuse others of lying, David.

        1. He spelt his name right. Simple question Mike

          If a historian tells you publicly that it is okay to lie about history for propaganda purposes because it is important sometimes to do so.
          Would you believe anything he tells you?

          1. Always check other sources, David. That’s how I know you twist and deceive.

            I know for a fact that you repeatedly lie…. as do your band of supporters on here.

            In fact Israel and Zionists are known as liars and twisters. In reporting such a statement you would lie and dishonestly term it anti-Semitic.

            1. I always check other sources. How else would your zero-level of competence on this board stay assured? You’re not going to admit your work is bankrupt. We need very little time to do it for you.

  11. Morning Michael. Now that you’ve finished running round in circles, have you had a chance to research Yasser Arafat, who he was, what he did and whether he was a worthy recipient of the Nobel Peace Prize?

    You have a very clear opinion on recipients you don’t like and you’re very keen to express it here often. So, lets make it easier for you and focus on those with whom you should have a natural sympathy. Which Egyptian was the more worthy recipient, Anwar Sadat or Yasser Arafat or were they both equally worthy?

    1. Staying on blog topic, David’s bread and butter, literally.

      At the head of this blog David mentions a trending ‘#covid1948’, an obvious reference to the creation of Israel in the land of Palestine, a traumatic occurrence for the Arabs living there.

      David himself explains “Covid is of course another name of the current Coronavirus. 1948 is the birthdate of Israel.”

      So this trend is attacking the creation of Israel, as David recognises. Why then does David headline the section “Nakba as a Jewish virus”.

      Again and again and again David changes the word Israel, and its references, to Jews. Blatantly dishonest, and not a little neurotic. Having created the lie he runs with it …. “‘Jews as virus’ trending in the UK. How sickening.”

      This example of lies and untruths are his bread and butter, as mentioned.

      Each blog distorts, each blog full of false accusations. Yet there are those on here who will run with him, encouraging him with their fawning posts in the full knowledge that he is blogging lies and distortions.

      Oh….. Morning, Ian

      1. Yes Michael, I promised to play along with your silliness and I’m a man of my word. Now, you were far too intimidated to go near the Begin or Arafat question and ran a mile from it. Surely you feel safer tackling the Sadat or Arafat question. Go on. Were both Egyptians worthy recipients of the Nobel Peace Prize ?

  12. Wow

    Such an innocuous statement by an anonymous poster.
    What exactly is this anonymous poster trying to imply or say

  13. Happy Nakba! to

    – Asa Winstanley
    – Mustafa Batnain
    – Moneeb Saada
    – Yaseer, swallower of c0cks
    – Robert Inlakesh
    – n. ick slater
    – Islamofascism On Campus

    🙂

    P.S. “The Nakba” is the neologism coined to define the FAILURE of 5+ bloodthirsty Arab armies, NONE of which was the army of an existing “Pal-e-STINE”, to murder the Jews of Israel and continue the Holocaust.

    “The Nakba” is as terrible as the UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER of SHlTlers Turd Reich on May 7, 1945. May 8 was VE (Victory in Europe) day.

    Happy Nakba to All!
    🙂

  14. Serious question; Every story has two sides. For every Jew there’s a Jew hater and for every accusation that David is a liar there’s an accusation that Michael, ( for example) is a liar.

    With that said Michael, do you think serious opponents in your team with genuine opinions and sophisticated arguments look at your contributions and just walk away considering it pointless to engage in real discussion if you’re the benchmark of opposition?

    1. Ian, your first paragraph is simplistic.

      Re. your second paragraph … I’ve never cared.

      How’s your boss? 😉

      1. Michael, sticking to the serious stuff for a few moments. how come you don’t care. If your approach here is such a liability to your own side, shouldn’t that matter to you?

        If people on your side want to challenge articles that are presented here in a reasonable way ( something that would be most welcome, ) but refrain from doing so because you create the impression that opposition is just shouting ‘liar’ a lot, isn’t that inhibiting your own cause? If you seriously don’t care about the people on your own side then are you saying that you’re only doing this for yourself?

      2. Sharmuta,

        How’s your Pimp? Is he satisfied with your Work Ethic?

        Happy Nakba!

        Happy 75th Anniversary of VE Day!

          1. This is what I meant above Michael. If a serious opponent wants to come here to present some structured counterpoint to the article and sees your insubstantial, repetitious slogans it just says “only trolls here”.

            You said that you didn’t care about this. So, does this mean that you dismiss the more serious approaches of other of David’s opponents preferring your own tactic ?

  15. In this blog … “Massacres that never happened, villages that were no more than a couple of tents, Arab civilians who were actually armed militia, a mighty Zionist force that was in reality a tiny and scared Jewish population and a plan of ethnic cleansing that simply did not exist”

    So terrorist groups Irgun and Lehi who carried out massacres and destruction of Arab villages were “a tiny and scared Jewish population” … according to David Collier who heads each blog with the words … “THE TRUTH MATTERS”

    What a joke.

    1. Michael, were you aware that former Israeli Prime Minister served with the Irgun and was later awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. You may recall that Yasser Arafat also received that prize. Have you any opinions on their worthiness as recipients?

      1. Two of the operations for which the Irgun is best known are the bombing of the King David Hotel in Jerusalem on 22 July 1946 and the Deir Yassin massacre, carried out together with Lehi on 9 April 1948. The Irgun has been viewed as a terrorist organization or organization which carried out terrorist acts.

        1. So are you saying that Yasser Arafat was a more worthy recipient of the Nobel Peace Prize than Begin?

          1. Begin was head of Irgun when they carried out those terrorist attacks.

            Israel rewarded his terrorism by having him lead the state, perhaps because of his track record.

            1. For all of you vile, thuggish, crooked, racist, apartheid-loving, settlement and apartheid road building, murdering, baby-killing, thieving, Islamophobic, water stealing, land-grabbing, religion-thieving, lying, history-twisting, bombing, raping, bulldozing, terrorist and white supremist, POS Zios who love to cry antisemitism.

              Here’s your antisemitism fix for the week – like a drug you can’t get enough of. Below find an online event that’ll keep you temporarily out of the sewers and off the streets.

              “To watch: Look for the LIVE post on the National Museum of American Jewish History page at 6pm EST. Beginning at 6pm EST (11PM BST) this program will also be available at NMAJH.org via a pop-up message on the homepage.

              Please note that audience Q&A is only available on Facebook during the live program.

              In the counterfactual novel The Plot Against America, the basis for the recent HBO series, Phillip Roth imagined an America where antisemitism ran amok. But the many historic events depicted on the page and screen reveal the deep currents of antisemitism coursing through American life in the 1930s and 1940s. They serve as sobering reminders of a past when America’s Jews responded to antisemitism, just as they must again today.

              With Michael Berenbaum, Independent Consultant; professor of Jewish Studies and director of the Sigi Ziering Institute, American Jewish University in Los Angeles and Pamela S. Nadell, Professor and Patrick Clendenen Chair in Women’s & Gender History, American University

              Each week during Jewish American Heritage month, we’ll sit down virtually with some of our favorite historians and Museum advisors (who happen to be leading scholars of American Jewish history) to find out how they’re doing and to learn how the Jewish community has faced and overcome crises throughout American history.”

              https://www.facebook.com/events/253332332694811/

            2. So Michael, are you saying that Yasser Arafat was a more worthy recipient of the Nobel Peace Prize than Begin?

        2. Farmgirl, your Taqiyya is laughable

          Given Islam’s need to kill men, women and CHILDREN, ALL OVER THE WORLD

          “The Religion of Peace” and “Islamo-FAUX-bia” is a horrific joke

          – 9/11
          – 1993 truck bombing of the World Trade Center
          – 1968 assassination of US Senator Robert F. Kennedy
          – 1972 hijacking of the Summer Olympics in Munich and murder of athletes
          – 1981 assassination of Egyptian President and Peace Maker Anwar Sadat
          – 1988 bombing of Pan Am 103 which crashed on Lockerbie
          – 2005 London’s 7/7 transport massacre
          – beheadings of Lee Rigby, journalist Daniel Pearl, James Foley and other victims of ISIS
          – Boston Marathon bombing
          – London and Westminster bridge car ramming attacks
          – Manchester arena bombing
          – Rotherham rape gangs
          – Bastille Day truck ramming attack in Nice France
          – massacre at Charlie Hebdo magazine offices in Paris
          – massacre at Bataclan music venue
          – massacre at Manchester music venue
          – massacre at Pulse nightclub in Orlando
          – massacre at Christmas party in San Bernardino
          – stabbing to death of filmmaker Theo Van Gogh
          – Fascist Irans death threats against writer Salman Rushdie
          – 500,000 dead in Syria (Arabs killing Arabs)
          – 1,000,000 dead in 8 year Iraq/Fascist Iran war (Muslims killing Muslims)
          – Mumbai India massacre
          – Nairobi Kenya mall massacre
          – Sadaam Husseins poison gassing of the Kurds of Halabja Iraq
          – ISIS beheading videos
          – Hamass executing gays by pushing them off rooftops in Gaza
          – Fascist Iran executing gays by hanging them from construction cranes
          – Coptic Christians being murdered in Egypt
          – murder of tourists in Luxor
          – Manhattan bike path car ramming attack
          – failed sneaker and later underwear suicide bombing of an inflight plane
          – failed SUV bombing of Times Square
          – public threats on placards of 9/11 scale attacks on the UK and Europe
          – Brussels airport bombing
          – bombing of USS Cole
          – Fort Hood Texas massacre
          – foiled attack on Garland Texas conference
          – death threats on creators of South Park cartoon series
          – Brooklyn Bridge shooting
          – Empire State Building Observation Deck shooting
          – Fascist Irans calls for Death to America
          – Taliban shooting girls who want an education
          – Muslim families stoning their daughters to death over “family honour”
          – DC Beltway sniper
          – Boko Haram kidnapping and raping girls in Nigeria
          – ISIS murdering Egyptian soldiers in the Sinai
          – ISIS burning Jordanian pilot to death
          – Taliban destroying two 1,500 year old Buddahs in Bamiyan Afghanistan
          – ISIS destroying antiquities in Palmyra
          – Hezbola and Hamass using children as Human Shields
          – Christmas market shooting in Strasbourg France
          – Armenian Genocide by the Turks
          – 1/15/19 Shabab terrorist attack in Nairobi Kenya
          – 2019 Easter Sunday massacre in Sri Lanka
          – London Bridge stabbings

          and on and on….

          1. Hi Ted.

            Guess what?

            Hitler wasn’t a Muslim, Stalin wasn’t a Muslim There were white.

            Ted isn’t a Muslim. Ted is white.

            So much in common. Lol.

          2. ISIS destroying antiquities in Palmyra.

            Less heinous than destroying the homes of innocent Palestinian families.

            1. Ooh, the comeback of the “What’s More Heinous ?” game, Michael.

              We had fun with that 18 months ago when you introduced it into your Sloga-dex.

              You were pushing the dig ” 6 million Jews murdered by Nazis but still less heinous than when a Jew shoots an Arab who is threatening his border fence”.

              Are we re-running that one? Last time It had a shelf life of around 3 articles as I recall.

              1. Could be drink sodden memory or just another Zionist liar and truth-twister.

                I was comparing the ‘crime’ of holocaust denial ie questioning the Holocaust figure(New York Holocaust Museum reckons 17 million assorted) with the crimes of the Israeli firing squads at the fence.

                I’ll quote my post to show what a worm you are, Ian
                _________

                Given that not only Jews perished in the Holocaust ( yes, really) might ‘Holocaust Denial'( that misnomer) also be classified as antiRoma, antiHomosexual, antiMentally Impaired, antiPhysically Impaired etc.
                That’s some ‘crime’.
                Still less heinous than shooting dead Protesting Gazans on their own land, that really is the work of the Devil.

                _________

                Say ‘Thankyou, Mike’ 🙂

  18. Michael, you were so busy placing your slogans yesterday that you missed my question.

    You were talking about rewards for terrorism and I simply ask whether you thought that Yasser Arafat was a more worthy recipient of the Nobel Peace Prize than Menachem Begin? I don’t want you to accuse me of failing to give you the chance to respond. So here’s a second chance………

      1. Michael, feel free to keep knocking your silly balls over the net. I will keep reminding you of my question you dare not answer. I can’t imagine why.

        Were Menachem Begin and Yasser Arafat equally worthy recipients of the Nobel Peace Prize?

  19. David shows 2 pictures of people holding keys in support of Palestinian refugees.

    David accompanies them with “On days such as this – antisemitic hatred is the only circus in town.”??!?

    How, David, is that anti-Semitic?

    You are a liar….. and a deceiver….. for a living.

  20. Bruce Levy

    Your last post illuminates your functional illiteracy when posting on this blog, and then you continue with totally irrelevant information on a meeting

    You start with a litany of mendacious accusations and insults against those you disagree with.

    The most interesting of those accusations is calling us ‘religion-thieving’!
    Could you please explain what you mean by this; ie. who is stealing what religion from whom?
    It would also be of interest to know on whose academic and pastoral authority your accusation is based

    Another point of interest in your rant is the accusation of ‘rape’!
    This again raises an interesting point as there have been allegations made against Jews/Israelis that we DO NOT rape Arab woman because we don’t like them because we are racist.
    So can you please let us know where you found these allegations of rape and the evidence substantiating them.

    Please try and give a literate answer which pertains to the questions, rather than a wild rant that bears no relation to the subject.
    I suspect that your inability and/or reticence in not answering these questions intelligibly will again show you up to be the Antisemitic racist bigot you are

    Incidentally; some are now celebrating the nakba as a miracle that the Jews managed to defeat the combined armies of five Arab states, and that it was most certainly a nakba for the Arabs who were defeated by the ‘second class Jewish dhimmis’ who had/have forgotten that the Arabs were supposed to be their overlords.
    My, my, my! How times change

  21. Hey Dick, by claiming their ideology and values represent every Jew on Earth, Zios attempted to hijack and steal the Jewish religion as their own.

    And by ‘rape’, I was referring to the rape of Palestine by ‘your kind’, as Israel was forced on Palestinians – as in rape. Moreover, the IDF Chief ‘Rabbi’, Col. Eyal Qarim, claimed that in times of war it is permissible for soldiers to “have sex with comely gentile women against their will”.

    I had a very interesting dream the other night where I was standing in front of a huge swastika. As the swastika started to spin faster and faster, it morphed into a Star of David. Suddenly gun-toting terrorist thug Menachem Begin appeared from the ground and declared: “I am the ghost of Zionism past!”

    There’s more to come…

    1. Bruce Levy

      Where do Zionists claim that they are the only stream of Judaism.
      Your personal ideological hatreds biases cloud your ability to to differentiate between your opinions and fantasies, and fact based analysis

      So you throw in a highly inflammable and contentious charge of rape against Jews/Israelis.
      I have no doubt that you use this accusation in the hope that if you repeat it often enough,,unattached observers will come to believe it.
      You are continuously trying the same with the ‘Apartheid’ smear.

      Was it the mass murdering Soviet Union or the mass murdering Nazi Germany that said ‘if you repeat a lie often enough, people will eventually come to believe it’s true’.

      Your constant ‘switch and bait’ tactics are as transparent as a clear piece of glass.
      Make a series of inflammatory accusations and comments, and then if you are caught out, try to spin your way out of your web of deceit.
      Another of your ploys is to make broad accusations and comments that are so vague and meaningless that when challenged, you can claim that it refers to something else, continuing this process indefinitely.

      So please continue with your antics as you always confirm in your comments that you are really just an Antisemitic racist bigot

      1. “So you throw in a highly inflammable and contentious charge of rape against Jews/Israelis.”

        Zionist historian Benny Morris has a revised book(that David may lend you) where he mentions the apes and the village clearings.

        An interviews with him gave us this ….
        ““The revised book is a double-edged sword. It is based on many documents that were not available to me when I wrote the original book, most of them from the Israel Defense Forces Archives. What the new material shows is that there were far more Israeli acts of massacre than I had previously thought. To my surprise, there were also MANY CASES OF RAPE. In the months of April-May 1948, units of the Haganah [the pre-state defense force that was the precursor of the IDF] were given operational orders that stated explicitly that they were to uproot the villagers, expel them and destroy the villages themselves.”

        2. So, re. the ethnic cleansing of the Nakba,

          Benny Morris Historian tells us “In the months of April-May 1948, units of the Haganah [the pre-state defense force that was the precursor of the IDF] were given operational orders that stated explicitly that they were to uproot the villagers, expel them and destroy the villages themselves.””

          David, propagandist blogger for Israel tells us ” … a plan of ethnic cleansing that simply did not exist”

          Wonder which to believe …. mmmm.

      2. Richard – “Where do Zionists claim that they are the only stream of Judaism?”

        Yachad are against the unilateral annexation of Palestinian land. A letter against the annexation prompted the sentence below.

        David – “When did our youth completely leave the Israeli Zionist spectrum and become part of the Palestinian propaganda machine? ”

        Seems that if you’re NOT in the Zionist spectrum you are letting down the children of Israel. Lol.

  22. Yes, those evil Zio soldiers likely RAPED and KILLED Palestinian young girls and elderly women because they couldn’t fight back. And then afterwards, the most ‘moral’ army prayed at the Kotel and sang the Hatikvah.

    1. “the Hatikvah.”?

      Is that the Israeli national anthem that talks only of Jewish hearts… not Arab …. nor Christian.

      No racism there then. No ‘apartness’ at all.

      1. Stupid Sharmuta, Which of the 50+ Muslim majority countries includes Jews or other Non-Muslims in their national anthem?

        And why are Muslims killing Muslims in Syria (500,000+), Egypt, Jordan, Iraq, Afghanistan, Fascist Iran, Malaysia, Indonesia, Sudan, Somalia, Lebanon, Gaza, …?????

  23. Michael, you were so lost in “Carry On Activist” mode yesterday that you forgot to answer the question that was posed.

    As the self appointed junior secretary here, I don’t want you to miss your right to reply. So, were Menachem Begin and Yasser Arafat equally worthy recipients of the Nobel Peace Prize?

    1. Ian, despite your frantic pleading for me to help you with your homework, whoever set it you, I feel that it’s a question you must answer for yourself.

      Look at the question, go through their lives(you obviously have the time) and make your own decision, if of course you have the confidence to weigh up the pros and cons.

      Did you get others to do your homework up t’North all those years ago?

      1. Michael, you really are wriggling on this one. I can’t imagine why.

        You rarely miss an opportunity to criticise our former Prime Minster Menachem Begin and are equally forthright with opinions on the plight of the Arabs in Israel. I’d have thought this would have been something you’d be really keen to comment on, but you are reticent.

        I’ve told you I have all the time in the world to watch you play your silly games, years if necessary. So lets’s give you another chance to be a big brave boy and answer the question. So, were Menachem Begin and Yasser Arafat equally worthy recipients of the Nobel Peace Prize?

        As I’m in a really good mood today, I will allow you to simply say ” I do not want to address this question” and we can leave it at that. Seem fair?

  25. No “Arab side” paid a price. Palestinians instead (not “Arabs”) were the victims of an injustice.
    And it was not the price of an “Arab aggression”; and in fact there was no “Arab aggression” at all.
    The ethnic cleansing of Palestinians by the Zionists had started long before May 15.
    The nakba is not the price of “Arab aggression”.
    The Nakba is the price of Zionism.
    The regional war was just a late pretext to justify it.

    Israel could not exist as a Jewish state without the Palestinian Nakba.
    A Jewish state is not possible without the expulsion of part of the indigenous non-Jewish Palestinian population. That is the only actual simple explanation for the Nakba.

    1. You guys are such sore losers.

      If you don’t like what we’ve got here do something about it. Perhaps hijack a plane when they start flying again and kill all the Jewish hostages. Blow up a bus with Israeli school kids on it or stab a granny with a screwdriver in Jerusalem. Anything more than writing shit on the internet.

      Wimps.

      1. You are talking to David, arent’ you?

        😀

        Interesting incitement to violence, though.

        I like truth.

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