Since the recent outbreak of violence in Gaza and Israel, I have been working on research that looks at Hamas PR and the speed in which it is delivered from Gaza to global anti-Israel activists. I thought I had left Jeremy Corbyn and the Labour Party behind. I was wrong.

Background

The research is looking at ‘independent’ social media journalists in Gaza and how they are pushing raw Hamas propaganda directly into the veins of anti-Israel activism worldwide. The very notion of press independence and Gaza is absurd. Hamas controls Gaza and everybody inside knows it. I will give just a few examples here:

  • Mohammad Lafi, 24-year-old rapper from the Jabalia Refugee Camp in Gaza, held for five days in January 2017 by Hamas authorities after he released a music video entitled “Your Right” that called for people to demonstrate and participated in protests around the electricity crisis. (See report).
  • Fouad Jarada, 34-year-old journalist with the Palestinian Broadcasting Corporation, arrested in June 2017 by Hamas forces three days after a Facebook post critical of a Hamas ally and a string of critical news reports. Authorities held him for more than two months on charges of “harming revolutionary unity,”. (ibid)
  • Gazan journalist and activist Amer Balousha published a post on Facebook in which he wondered whether his leaders’ mothers also have to sleep on the floor in order to cool themselves down in the unbearable summer heat. In response he received private Facebook threats which he ignored. A few days later he was called to appear at Hamas’ Internal Security where he was beaten and held for weeks. (see report).
  • In April 2017 Hamas arrested 17 activists and journalists charged with “spreading false rumors and news through social networking sites.”. (see report).
  • ‘The prisons run by Hamas that I observed were typical of prisons in a third-world country. What was the most depressing is the charges pressed against prisoners, and how normalized those charges were. One man who I spoke with was a journalist who “misused technology.” Another was simply a “Palestinian Authority employee.” Another was a young lawyer who “insulted high authorities” in a moment of anger. They had all been brought in to be “disciplined,” which means terrorized, humiliated and scared into submission’. (see report)

International journalists know the drill, but are physically safer (they just won’t be let in again) but threats are still directed to the locals they work with. Gazan social media activists, sitting vulnerable in their homes with their families – they have no protection at all.

Pallywood

Yet it cannot end there. There is also a Hamas propaganda machine that churns out material it wants delivered to the gullible global community. This industry has even been given a name ‘Pallywood’. In the age of social media, with no filter at all between Hamas HQ and the online community, there is little doubt that much of what comes out from Gaza is nothing more than a Hamas directed newsreel. Logically, if Hamas control Gaza, if local independent reporters cannot write anything against Hamas and if some social media activists have 100,000s of followers, it would be beyond reason to suggest Hamas and these activists do not have an operational relationship.

Why wouldn’t Hamas use their power to control a pipeline with an audience of millions? The relationship can be one of ‘cooperation through intimidation’, but it need not be. With no alternative but to tow the Hamas line, why wouldn’t a social media player seek potential rewards for doing so?

Not only do these ‘independent’ activists appear to use a script sheet, they also never seriously criticise Hamas, see any weapons in use, witness any internal violence or fail to solidly support the ‘resistance’. They also rarely comment when one of their own is arrested. This is a climate of fear.

Walid Mahmoud

As part of the research I saw online live reports from ‘activist’ Walid Mahmoud: Mahmoud has 19,000 followers on Facebook:

Walid Mahmoud

He has another Facebook page followed by 24,900 people. He is a popular figure. In June he was interviewed by Jewish Voice for Peace.

Looking at his posts, there is no real criticism of Hamas. He does however tow the Hamas line by criticising the PA. Mahmoud pushes the propaganda message relentlessly. This is a person who claims to be on the front line, but he never sees a gun, never sees a Hamas operative and never sees any internal violence. This is how he reported the events of 14th May:

Gaza fence

Peaceful demonstrators? Nobody near the fence? This is an eye-witness? Mahmoud lives there, he knows who Hamas are. If there was violence, if there were attempts to breach the fence and if Hamas later reported that fifty-two of the sixty killed were Hamas members, why wouldn’t independent journalists at the scene have told us first?

Look at this post from May about ‘rockets and resistance’.

Mahmoud is doing nothing but pushing empty Hamas propaganda. No rockets? In four years? Walid’s message is always in tune. ‘We are all innocent civilians, we are all helpless, children are dying – help us’

Cutting ties between anti-Israel activism and mainstream media is another part of the strategy. You will see this repeated everywhere, like a drumbeat:

You don’t need to live in Gaza to spin the news (or ‘how ITV pulled a fast one’)

On the 11th May, Walid met ITV news correspondent Emma Murphy, from ITV. Walid had gone to ‘report’ from the scene.

When they met, he had on his flak jacket, camera and was possibly carrying a helmet with ‘Press’ written on it: This is a selfie of two journalists:

At some point, Walid removed the jacket, put down the camera and Emma used him in an interview, describing him as a ‘Palestinian protestor’.

Walid Mahmoud Gaza

Which seems both a little ‘contrived’ and ‘innovative’ to say the least.

Hamas and Corbyn

And just when I thought I was leaving the Labour Party behind, there it was, back on my computer screen. Incredibly, Walid Mahmoud manages a Facebook page called ‘we support Jeremy Corbyn‘:

 

The is a screenshot from the page ‘We support Jeremy Corbyn’:

jeremy corbyn

The page is not an obscure one. It has over seventy thousand followers:

 

It is associated with another Facebook Group with over sixty-eight thousand members.

There is a clear link between the two. Until it was pointed on on Twitter in April, Mahmoud was an admin of that associated group (H/T Twitter @NudderingNudnik):

In a report, the Sunday Times referenced the group as ‘the biggest’ pro-Corbyn group on Facebook. They found it was full of ‘routine attacks on Jewish people’. I think I will run this by you again. This is a major pro-Corbyn Facebook page and the biggest Corbyn Facebook group, partially managed / administrated by a Palestinian living in the Gaza Strip who at the very least, pushes raw Hamas propaganda.

Hamas poison, dripping into the veins of the Labour Party:

If you look at Mahmoud’s activity, on the page and in the group, you can clearly see the message being spread. The drumbeat about cutting ties with mainstream media:

Similar messages can be found in the group:

But the persistent demonisation of Israel was everywhere. Hundreds and hundreds of posts. There is never any criticism of anyone but Zionists. For example in dozens of posts Walid speaks of the shortage of electricity, but NEVER points out that is a Hamas / PA dispute, not an Israeli one.

Walid also used the admin account to post propaganda. This was even cause for complaint:

He pushes the idea that Israel, controls the US is behind ISIS and seeks global domination.

Walid is also a member of a group called ‘Truthers against Zionist Lobbies’ (you can guess what that is about just from the title) and the deeply antisemitic ‘Palestine Live‘. He is an active member of ‘Jeremy Corbyn – True Socialism‘, and ‘Jeremy Corbyn Leads Us to VICTORY‘.

Funding and donations

I have written about the issue of donations heading towards Gaza before. It is not that there isn’t a call for it, but rather, how does anyone actually know where the money ends up? Walid is extremely active on the issue. Note he explicitly points out these are ‘his projects’ not projects he simply advertises for others:

In fact, when you access the funding pages he uses, you soon realise there are over a dozen campaigns. Most pass their target. Just these ‘successful’ projects raised £62000 ($80000). I say ‘just these’ because it isn’t the only funding source Walud uses. Here is a single campaign on ‘gofundme’ that raised £9000 ($11600). In this campaign, he drops ‘Mahmoud’ and just uses ‘Walid Rouk’.

Given the average annual income per person in Gaza is less than £1500 (less than $1900), Walid Mahmoud is a money making machine. At the very least, these ties are being used to direct funds to Gaza – the question then becomes what exactly are Labour supporters actually funding?

The case of Ghalya Abu-Rida

About six months after the 2014 conflict, an IDF spokesman released a photo of a soldier, giving water to an elderly woman. The woman’s name was Ghalya Abu-Rida. Such positive imagery was never going to go unanswered, and within a few weeks, a Journalist from the Hamas TV station told a story about how the soldier ‘gave her the water, took a photo with her and then he shot her in the head from a distance of one metre. He then watched as she bled to death‘. The story went viral but was clearly manufactured. The pro-Israel website Israellycool destroyed the Pallywood narrative within a matter of hours.

This is a case of clear Hamas propaganda. There is no way this happened, and Al-Aqsa TV were just doing what they were created to do. This is a hoax and everyone connected to it is openly supporting Hamas lies.

Which brings me to the Palestine Monitor report that was issued, a week after the Hamas fabricated story was released. They wanted to ‘uncover the truth’. Who did they find to talk to? Walid Rouk. This is from the report:

Walid Rouk, however, corroborates Qdeh’s account, saying that he visited the area around Ghalya Abu Rida’s home after returning to Khuza’a. He spoke to her neighbours and family about what happened; “I went to see her family at her old home and they showed me the medical report from Nasser Hospital in Khan Younis. The report said she was shot from one metre away and the bullet it was lodged inside of her head,” Rouk claimed.

That is Walid Rouk Mahmoud being used to confirm a fabricated Hamas account.

Holding hands

In his posts, terrorists are of course martyrs. If you support ‘resistance’ as Walid does then calling the military wing of Hamas the ‘Palestinian Resistance Brigades’ is political messaging.

The ‘reporting’ deliberately skews:

There is of course no attempt to report that she left a ‘shahida’ suicide note and attacked Israelis with a knife.  Here is another:

The face Walid wants you to see:

And the one he doesn’t (H/T Israellycool):

 

There is little point in posting more of these, there are too many. The pro-Hamas links are never far away:

Gaza

The man with Walid in both images is Nader Abdelnaby. The Islamic University has been described as ‘one of the prime means for Hamas to convert Palestinians to its Islamist cause,’. In 2015 when Hamas ran an #askhamas campaign on Twitter, Abdelnaby was one of those pushing for the Islamic terror outfit:

There is no way to tell whether Walid is a Hamas operative or not. Gaza is an iron curtain controlled by Hamas and all we see is a puppet show. If Walid has an Arabic account it would be hidden behind a slightly different spelling of his name. Yet it surely insults the intelligence to expect to believe that Hamas wouldn’t be interested in a social media activist with an audience of 100,000s, access to sympathetic political players in the UK and the ability to generate hard foreign currency. So if he is not ‘Hamas’ it is hard to believe he is not Hamas ‘directed’. And if he is directed, then Hamas are infiltrating the Jeremy Corbyn support network.

What is certain is this, if a Putin propaganda agent in Moscow was running Jeremy Corbyn Facebook pages, people would probably want to look long and hard at the issue. Will they do the same when it is connected to a radical Islamic terror enclave? That’s the question.

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120 thoughts on “Why are Jeremy Corbyn Facebook pages managed by Hamas puppets in Gaza?

  1. “I thought I had left Jeremy Corbyn and the Labour Party behind. I was wrong.”

    Why would you do that, David? The witchhunt to have him removed hasn’t worked … still got buckets of smear left I’m sure.

    1. Mike please. If for whatever reason Corbyn was to stand down, another would take his place. There are societal forces at work that go far beyond individual actors. You really should try and think in less one-dimensional terms. As it happens I was quite happy to focus on something other than Labour, I am probably as bored with it all as Stephen is.

      On point and away from your deflections. How independent do you think the social media activist is?

      1. “You really should try and think in less one-dimensional terms. ”

        David’s one dimension for months was Jeremy Corbyn wasn’t it.

        “the social media activist”? More specifically?

        1. According to Walid Mahmoud resume see above, he…

          Studied Industrial Electronics & control at Palestine Technical College

          IOW Walid’s studies in “Industrial Electronics & control” are a euphemism for learning how to make BOMBS.

    1. How interesting Bellers? As interesting as watching a Chinese kid doing 4 Rubik cubes at the same time or more so?

      1. Ian you are a really crap gatekeeper. You are supposed to close the gate not forever be opening it wide.

        I do, however, enjoy your attention so I would not want to discourage you.

  2. Here is a 30 second YouTube of newsreel from 1941 documenting a meeting between Fascist SOCIALIST (Laboor Party) Hitler and IslamoFascist Grand Moooofti (Arafarts uncle) of Jerusalem.

        1. So, Leah, as well as pup Ted, are amused and triumphant on the subject of ethnic cleansing of Palestinianso. David, who sees ‘antisemitism’ at every turn (so he tells us) allows them to mock non-Jews. This same David has mentioned to us that members of his family were ethnically cleansed(not to a refugee camp) but to Israel.

          Were I to mock that I’m sure he’d show me the red card for my trouble. Yet in this he sits on his hands.

          1. LOL! Sharmuta, Your NAKBA is as sad as your Grand Moofti’s National SOCIALIST Germany surrendering, unconditionally to the US, UK and SU.

            Face it toots, your Genocidal Jihad turned into a NAKBA.

          2. Absolute poppycock. I almost never censor comments and I have never banned anyone for an opinion. This was posted on this site two days ago and remains live:

            “Antisemitism exists and always will exist simply because of Semitism. Why are people afraid of the facts about the Jews? They have subverted and undermined every host they have been invited or crawled into. They are condemned in the bible and have been expelled from over a 100 countries for more or less the same practices. The fact that the masquerade as white people and literally own the bulk of the media means they control the minds of the masses.”

            You can carry on squealing Mike, but leave me out of it.

            1. David

              Farmer boy is nothere to discuss or further the pursuit of ideas and knowledge
              His contribution is normally meaningless one liners that take comments of others out of context etc.
              His purpose appears to be to confuse and misuse
              If one tries to engage or challenge, he either ignores the subject or attempts to deride it
              The term ‘mindless troll’ comes to mind as a perfect description of him

  3. You threw your dummy out when I said that I saw no BLATANT antisemitism in the first pages of your fanciful Palestine Live ‘report’.

    You stopped my posting for quite a while, David.

    1. Oh Mike, bless those cotton socks of yours. Firstly, I am nothing if not human. Almost as importantly, if I had someone here who was a ‘flat earther’, I wouldn’t remove him because of his stupidity or blindness. He is perfectly entitled to be both. But if he were behaving in such a manner that I felt it was clearly deliberate trolling rather than sincere argument, I would probably remove him for a while. I’ve done boards for decades now. Some people become obsessive. Sometimes a time out is like a detox. It isn’t anything to do with denying a platform on the basis of opinion.

      As for the ‘Nakba’. There is little sicker than the attempt by adherents of ‘Palestinianism’ to equate the ‘Nakba’ with the Holocaust. I have even seen the term ‘Nakba denial’ thrown around. The ‘Nakba’ was the result of a war that the Arabs sought and wanted to win. Had they won they would have decimated the Jews. I am not going to apologise, nor feel bad about Jews surviving. Was there human suffering on the ‘other side- – yes there was. I am sure innocents were killed, some commanders were Zealots, some actions were racist, some expulsions were strategically unnecessary, some massacres happened – I am convinced of all of this. I also believe this is tragic, but that is the human cost of ANY WAR, anywhere. Innocent Germans died in WW2- but I do not feel guilty that the UK fought and beat Nazi Germany.

      What didn’t happen was the revisionist tale of the ‘Nakba’ that has Plan Dalet as the master plan upon which the entire battle was fought, when in reality it was a plan of survival, written just a few weeks before several Arab armies invaded and at a time when the Haganah were suffering heavy casualties on the road and were unable to supply Jewish villages with weapons or food. It was a few weeks before the Arabs invaded and these Jewish villages would either be fed and armed or massacred. If you wish to talk the tragedy of conflict with me, I will deal with you respectfully, if you seek to install Aslan and Narnia into the storyline, you deserve to have your tale ridiculed.

      1. “!some expulsions were strategically unnecessary,”

        Really. Which ones were that. ?
        (Practically according to Morris Israel could not survive with a hostile arab population in its midst.)

        1. Actually it could not survive as a Jewish-majority Zionist state. Another deçeption attempted. Morris’s revised book, with reference to later released documents, shows that ethnic cleansing was conducted on a large scale.

  4. David, I am an admirer of your unfortunately necessary work and of this blog, but I have concerns about the amount of oxygen taken up by the likes of Stephen Bellamy and Mike Farmer.
    While I entirely agree that a closed debate is a non debate and that there is value in testing one’s argument,surely there has to be a limit or a recognition that your opponent is not playing by the same rules?It seems to me that Bellamy et al are nothing more than trolls with one agenda/time on their hands/an obsessional antipathy towards an autonomous Jewish state, and that they are not engaging in a discourse that is likely to produce a revision of ideas,at least not on their side.
    I obviously have no idea who they are outside of their keyboard warrior personae (maybe you do and that’s why you continue to debate with them?), but their online presence is entirely consistent with that of the single issue pub bore who has an armamentarium of obscure “facts” relevant only to himself. Typically,this brand of sophistry is an attempt to bestow legitimacy onto otherwise thuggish bigotry, as typified by convicted criminal Mick Napier of the SPSC.
    Repeatedly, I read your thoughtful and detailed answers to inflammatory comments from a small group of posters who are just not interested in what you have to say, as evinced by the very brief,very simple, very sarcastic answers you receive in response to your attempts at dialogue. I am always interested in the comments section of a blog such as this one but the disproportionate emphasis on a handful of obvious Jew haters- sorry, *anti Zionists*- is wearying, and I wonder if it prohibits other genuine posters from commenting more often as nobody wants to disappear down their rabbit hole? And by the way, in case any of your regular trolls take exception to my categorisation of them as “Jew haters”, then no, it doesn’t undermine my case as I am not crying antiSemitism as a reflex, but responding directly to the facts before my eyes. Furthermore,I reserve the right absolutely to define what is and is not antiSemitic as a Jew, and an obsessive,unrelenting trotting out of irrelevant chimerae, important only to themselves, with the purpose of undermining valuable research into present day Jew hatred in all its forms,seems to fit the bill.
    So, as someone who genuinely shares your concerns and who believes in your integrity as a truthful witness to the unfolding madness of the modern antiSemitism that we and our children are experiencing, please could you give us a break from the smug,content free commentary of your online baiters, at least for a little while?

    1. All very interesting Barbara. I would take issue with just one point.

      ” Furthermore,I reserve the right absolutely to define what is and is not antiSemitic as a Jew, ”

      I am afraid not. You do not get to define ” antisemitism, I don’t care how Jewish you are. Like all other words and expressions in the language it gets defined by the 1.5 billion speakers of the said language via the force of their uses of the expression. But anyway once you have summoned up the hubris to ” define” it what plans do you have to inform the rest of us about this changed situation? Quite an undertaking. Or do you just plan to leave the 1.5 billion less one of us in ignorance ?

      1. Dumb Bellamy, I wish my fellow Americans a Happy Thanksgiving!

        To A-Holes like you, I wish you a HAPPY NAKBA!

      2. I’m applying the MacPherson principle here, and am unfamiliar with the linguistic rule that allows for any speaker of a language to define its, um, “words and expressions”. Here’s a word for you though, antiSemite,and since according to you I get to choose how it’s defined,then that’s how I define you and your ilk.

      3. How interesting Bellers? As interesting as seeing an image of Jesus in your rice pudding or more so?

        1. Dunno Ian, not having seen an image of Jesus in my rice pudding or anywhere else it is hard to say. I do hear though that he is alleged to be the son of the great real estate agent in the sky

      4. Bellamy, you cannot tell her what to personally regard as antisemitic. Your totalitarian state has not arrived yet, and she is free. She gets to define it. You get to disagree. She most likely has the (much) better argument.
        Do you tell black people what they may and may not regard as racist?
        What do 1.5 billion speakers know about antisemitism? Not much. It’s really not up for a vote. And why would you say she is creating a “changed situation” when I can tell you that the situation hasn’t changed much for centuries. Gentiles still believe all sorts of nasty and quite ridiculously delusional things about Jews.
        But since you’re so keen on voting let me ask you if the will of the people to exit the EU has yet been fully thwarted?

        1. jeff I have no interest in telling Barbara what she can personally regard as antisemitic. I am merely saying that Barbara regrding x, y, or z as antisemitic does not make it so. It is no crime to speak a private language. Barbara can regard what she wants. Its none of my, or your, business.

          It may be worth mentioning though that ” a word means whatever I mean by it ” was one of the surer signs that Humpty Dumpty was nuts

    2. Barbara. It is a quirk of mine. I consider it a strength, others a weakness. My research is placed into a blog. That channel, the one of me delivering my research is what this website is about.
      I then have a separate question – do I allow or not allow comments underneath. What I write is accurate, considered and presented with evidence. Let them knock themselves out trying to deflect from the work. The more time they spend here, the less time they are somewhere else.
      I don’t actually spend much time on it. Sometimes I never even comment. It certainly doesn’t distract me from anything else.

    3. Bravo Barbara. I have said as much but not as succinctly as you. These several trolls bring nothing new to the discussion. They are unable to counter David’s painstaking razor sharp research exposing the inherent antisemitism within both the PSC and elements of the Labour Party. In the absence of counter argument, they resort to disrupting the thread BTL . Unfortunately there are those who rise to the bait, rather than ignoring their nonsense. David’s intent not to block or otherwise censor is admirable, but these individuals cross the line from robust counter argument into trolling and disruption

  5. Farmer boy is not here to discuss, or further the pursuit of ideas and knowledge
    His contribution is normally meaningless one liners that take comments of others out of context etc.
    His purpose appears to be to confuse and misuse
    If one tries to engage or challenge, he either ignores the subject or attempts to deride it

    The term ‘mindless troll’ comes to mind as a perfect description of him

  6. Out of the major murderous dictatorships of the 20th Century, there emerged a wealth of incredible ‘sound bite’ comments from the ‘great leaders’ or their cohorts.

    One of these was the famous ‘If You Repeat a Lie Often Enough, It Becomes the Truth’ (and the People Believe It) (not the exact wording) (puportedly from Stalin or Goebels)

    Another referenced the ‘Useful Idiots’ (by Stalin), about the mindless followers and apologists of the Soviet Union, that occupied academia and the left.
    These ‘useul idiots’ excused the excesses of the Soviet Union as millions were murdered by the KGB and other security groups of said Soviet Empire.
    These are the same ‘useful idiots’ that excuse excesses and promote the propoganda of Hamas and the Palestinian Authority.

    The same people that excused and justified the mass murder and human rights suppresion in the 20th Century by the ‘Great Dictators’ (Stalin, Hitler, Mao), are now supporting the likes of Hamas and Iran and Venuzuela and countless other petty dictatorships that defile our planet.
    It’s all in the name of ‘progressiveness’, so it’s all ok

  7. David, you have acknowledged that “[t]here is no way to tell whether Walid is a Hamas operative or not.” Are we therefore to infer that your “research” is nothing more than an exercise in conjecture?

    1. of course not. My research is always accurate and honest. I present the facts. I have evidence he promotes Hamas propaganda, I have evidence he pushes Hamas terrorists as artists, I have evidence there is no press freedom in Gaza. We know he runs pro-Corbyn Facebook pages and is an admin of groups. I put together all the information I have. If he was in Moscow, called Evgeny and pushed Russian Secret service propaganda – I don’t think it would be acceptable. The fact I wouldn’t be able to produce an ID card calling him a Putin operative would not make it okay. I see no difference here.

      1. “We know he runs pro-Corbyn Facebook pages”? That a crime now?

        Guilt by association again … your fave, David?

            1. no Mike, the yawn is that a, you think that you’ve created an argument when you haven’t and b, you think I will entertain it

  8. Josh

    Maybe you can go to Gaza for us for a few days to verifyif he is a member of Hamas or not

    Certain things are very difficult to verify; therefore it is necessary to state that fact. Most people with an iota of intelligence should know why it is difficult to verify certain facts when it comes to certain issues; such as Gaza

  9. A fascinating and disturbing piece, David. Sadly, there are so many willing ears in the West to this shocking reel of lies and hate, with Corbyn and his supporters at the forefront. Well done on your investigative work.

    “A Liberal will accept as truth revealed anything an angry Palestinian tells him”

  10. So, the great and good have determined that I and another are nothing but trolls, yet strangely are blind to the antics of Edward and Ian.

    Must be a reason. Any ideas?

  11. You and your friend are Internet trolls because you are using this space to disrupt and to cause discord and to distract from the purpose of the blog. If someone responds negatively to your comments they are not, by definition, trolls because the online term has a very specific usage. If you don’t know the rules of the game, may I suggest that you put some of your considerable spare time into learning them? In fact, your latest post in itself constitutes an act of trolling. It seems you just can’t stop yourself. Probably every utterance that comes out of your mouth or that you type with one finger is a variety of trolling and, as you can see, people are bored to death with you.

    1. Why trolls, Barbara?

      Yes, we challenge David’s blogs which are mainly attacks on Jeremy Corbyn’s Labour Party and weak attempts to map anti-Zionism to anti-Semitism.

      If you wish to change my mind on certain aspects you could attempt to explain to me how ‘the mural’ that Mr. Corbyn was castigated over was ‘antisemitic’ .. or how describing Israel as a ‘racist endeavour’ is also antisemitic.

      Off you go, let’s have a non-trolling discourse.

      1. Why would I do that? The burden of proof doesn’t lie with me or anyone else who finds your, ahem, “discourse” to be disturbing, unproductive, misinformed and partisan You’re not here to have your mind changed about anything, as you well know, because that’s hardly the purpose of trolling, is it? If David’s measured and detailed answers to your inane statements haven’t resulted in you tempering your remarks then nothing will.
        I won’t be responding to anything else you or your trolling comrades have to say on this matter because I honestly don’t care whether you support Israel’s right to exist or know the correlation between Zionism and Judaism, I just regret that you have a voice on this site. I think that David is making a mistake if he thinks that by entertaining your Jew hate it limits your time trolling elsewhere. Jew hating appears to be a full time occupation for those who engage with it, so you go about your toxic business if you like, because,
        really, nobody beyond the four walls of your bedroom gives a damn.

        1. “You’re not here to have your mind changed about anything, as you well know, because that’s hardly the purpose of trolling, is it?”

          Could Barbara tell Mike the purpose of David’s blogs other than to smear opponents of Israel and it’s actions … especially Jeremy Corbyn’s Labour Party?

        2. Barbara posts “they(Bellamy and Farmer) are not engaging in a discourse that is likely to produce a revision of ideas,at least not on their side.”

          and later “You’re not here to have your mind changed about anything”

          … are you, Barbara …or are you ‘trolling” too?

      2. poppycock. You are here to deflect from the content of the blog-post and take people down rabbit-holes.

  12. “Gentiles still believe all sorts of nasty and quite ridiculously delusional things about Jews”???

    Are you a gentile, Jeff?

  13. Note; This is me doing some gate-posting Bellers. I looked it up and I quite fancy it.

    You got in a bit over your head with old Barbara earlier didn’t you. You and the Personae were rumbled again and the feeble counter-punches wouldn’t have blown Jesus’s face of the top off your rice pudding. Not very interesting that!

    She’s right though isn’t she? You and your ali-arses are totally ineffective when you comment on stuff on which you have no real opinions. Here though you had a chance but you’ve been so keen on your deflection tactics that you’ve missed the boat. You failed to spot that Arab terrorists are exploiting a hapless British Labour leader all over social media for their own ends just ’cause he came out and said they were his friends. Us ZioNazis are far better at spotting a pretend ally than you lot. Maybe you’ve give up on defending your hard earned freedoms. At least you gave it a go.

    Hint. I’d pick Slogan #7 from your archive is the appropriate response to copy/paste to this one.

      1. I always know when you’re rattled Bellers. Fewer slogans, more reluctant challenges. You reallt are ultra ultra smart.

  14. Despite your quite disgusting attempt to portray activists or journalists as Hamas stooges only because they cannot criticize Hamas, still Walid Mahmoud comes across as being a person who did nothing wrong whatsoever.
    And also, Emma Murphy didn’t portray him as “protester” – the underbelly title is decided by ITV not by the correspondant.

  15. Gabriel

    Thank you for confirming what David has been saying all along
    You have stated the obvious; that all and any news coming out of Gaza cannot be trusted and believed, as all journalists are in fear of the repercussions of crossing Hamas

    Reporters there may not be stooges of Hamas; but they are most certainly propogandists for Hamas if all they produce conforms to the Hamas line.

    So thank you again for that confirmation

  16. Not quite sure what you mean or the relevance.

    You still haven’t answered my questions from a while ago, but now are asking your own
    Naughty naughty

    1. “Not quite sure what you mean or the relevance.”?

      Ask the others in the Tel Aviv typing pool to explain.

            1. Toots, I did fail the Islamofascist Appeasement test, which you passed with flying colors.

              Now get back to work Sharmuta.

    1. Ah, Mandy. Saw her in a sketch on the BBC’s Derbyshire program. Terrible actress. Delivered unbelievable lies … without conviction.

      Sorry, lines.

    2. “Over to you Ian”

      Cheers Bellers, seeing as you offered…. How do you protect your ‘hard earned freedoms’ when Arab terrorists are exploiting the naivety of the British Labour Party for their own purposes?

        1. No, really. How do you protect your ‘hard earned freedoms’ when Arab terrorists are exploiting the naivety of the British Labour Party for their own purposes?

          From all the stuff you’ve posted here over the last 18 months, this is something on which you must have a real opinion. You get so narked when you reckon its the Jews playing up. Do you feel the same when it’s the Arabs?

          1. Ian I have never been narked on the internet in my entire life. I get narked when I walk over gaol house steps in Bristol and I see how the council have moved on the homeless from the banks of the Avon newcut.

            And you do know that the expression ” the Jews ” is straight out of the Israelist play book.

            But anyway I have never felt or seen

            Arab terrorists exploiting the naivety of the British Labour Party for their own purposes

            impacting on my life or my hard won freedoms.

            I am guessing that this statement is just a random bunch of words you threw together, and they never will impact on the above mentioned freedoms. I could be wrong, there is a famous happening in 1983 when I was. But I don’t think so. And as you surely must have realised by now thinking is my strong point.

            1. And you do know that the expression ” the Jews ” is straight out of the Israelist play book.

              It works like this.

              I say ” Ian you are are a self obsessed cunt ”

              You say ” You don’t like the Jews do you ? ”

              Geddit ?

                1. An ingenious reply Bellers that typifies your approach when you don’t really have anything to say but are still duty bound to post. I’ll see your self obsessed cuntery and raise you 5 of your slogans.

      1. Ian, you are posting on the blog of one who exploited the naivety of Tory press editors to slur Corbyn as having been a regular member of a Facebook group that he falsely accused of being antisemitic.

        The irony.

          1. More fully ……. “Disciplinary investigations have led to some party members being expelled or suspended for bringing the party into disrepute. Livingstone resigned from the party in 2018 after being suspended for two years. Corbyn himself was the subject of controversy in 2018 after his comments on Facebook in 2012 concerning the removal of Freedom for Humanity, an allegedly antisemitic mural, were brought to public notice and for being a member of three Facebook groups in which antisemitic content was posted.”

            A member was expelled for arguing with an MP who was a ‘Friend of Israel’. The argument was not concerning antisemitism.
            Livingstone resigned to campaign for Labour from outside Parliament and to ease pressure on Labour from the false accusations of antisemitism against him by the likes of Mann and Berger.
            The Mural, obviously NOT antisemitic but obviously antiOligarch was being used by Zionist deceivers to accuse Corbyn of antiSemitism. That campaign, also driven the writer of this blog, has failed to have him removed for his recognition of Israel’s vile treatment of the Palestinians.

              1. Very much the point Jeff and as a result of his naivety he’s being used by Arab terrorists (who really couldn’t give a toss about him), entirely for their own purposes. Now, of course Bellers and the Personae say that they couldn’t give a toss about this either. In fact Bellers’s couldn’t give a toss-ness extends to half a dozen paragraphs above. Doesn’t seem to sit well with the whining posts in every article bleating away about Jews threatening hard won freedoms. Then when you point out to them that Arab terrorist are actually manipulating a hapless old British politician all you get is some wanky activist shtick and a few feeble insults. You can’t be an activist if you’re only pretending to care about anything.

                1. Corbyn is a wimp. Who fucking cares who is or might be manipulating him. Your problem Ian is that you don’t have the remotist fucking clue what is going on. Slogan #1. This why you are such a crap gatekeeper. You always hopelessly off the pace.

                  1. Oh stop whining Bellers. That’s the 7th paragraph on why you don’t care. Good to see an airing of our favourite slogan but the crack about the gateposting was a bit rude.

  17. I think Bellers was just suffering a bout of verbal/written diorea (excuse spelling)

  18. Despite the dishonesty, and the subsequent failure, of the ‘Jewish Community’ campaign against him, Corbyn is still there. 🙂

  19. Fascinating piece of research – well done. Both absolutely unbelievable and absolutely predictable.

    1. Fiction can be fascinating, Gordon …. and as you say both unbelievable … and predictable.

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